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Recieved: 2000/09/18 04:59
Subject: Re: [K-list] K and religion poll
From: llewellyn


On 2000/09/18 04:59, llewellyn posted thus to the K-list:

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> Dear List,
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> Since we are on the subject of religion...:)) I was wondering...
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> What religious visions/associations/symbolisms/patterns/motifs, etc. have
> been part of your K awakening?

Dear Hillary and List,

It seems that i need to add a few words on this topic, since I keep on
forming responses in my mind. My K awakening was spontaneous and I did not
even really know of kundalini before I started searching for answers weeks
after my wild week of K. And then only when I was released from the mental
hospital, that my so called family arranged to have the state force me into.

At the time it was the snake symbol. Not just in dreams but in my
thoughts I remember saying, 'I am not ready for the snake'. And on the
second day, it was beautiful cold February day and the snow had fallen the
night before and I was out shoveling snow and saw superimposed on the clear
blue sky an image of a coiled snake. Where in the world does this potent
image and symbology come from. It is different from a mystic religious
experience when one might 'see' images from ones religious beliefs. If I
had seen a vision of a Christ figure on a cross, would this have been
acceptable to my family. It certainly would fit into my frame of reference
and upbringing. But, what is amazing about K is that it appears from
reading Greenwell that it is relatively common for symbols of K to be
manifest without any preconditioning in this life. Mudras and sometimes
even Sanskrit words can be voiced without any prior knowledge. This process
either taps into a universal consciousness or perhaps we resurface memories
from past lives. It makes the experience more unquestionable for me. It
is clearly not something that I was trained to believe it is not following a
voice from outside it is listening to what is inside and uncovering
yourself. Or is it?

For me, this was totally separate from any religious experience. My
experience was spiritual and not religious and I make a big distinction. I
tended to be religious when young. I was brought up in a mainstream
protestant religion. Actually, my upbringing was fractured. My mother is
Mormon and my father Baptist. I went to the Baptist church with my father;
but, there was this real palpable tension about religion in the family. My
life has seemed to try to synthesize various religious point of views. I
married a Jewish girl from my dorm, and we were married by a Catholic priest
in an outdoor ceremony quoting Gibran. But that was the 70s. Later
religion dropped out of importance in my life. I turned to an interest in
what one would say to be new-age type ideas, buying books by Bailey, and
Cayce but still periodically picking up some books from the Indian
philosophy classes that I mixed in with engineering in college. I remember
writing a paper where I commented that I must absorb parts of the Rg Veda as
well as engineering to be me. I am still struggling with this today.
Trying to stay on the path to become me. Actually, this path that I am on
is only in my imagination, for I am not following any well-worn trail,
traveled by many.

It is perhaps no wonder, that when I gave myself more time to explore my
life, and left indoor work for the farm, 5 plus years ago, that my spirit
would lead me to K. I do not know. It all seems such a mystery....... I
became spiritual during those days when K erupted in me, and the remnants of
religion dropped away. Religion seems to be imposed from outside. It is
a circle of people all reinforcing one another since they can quote the same
words and go around in circles. Spirit and K come from within. It is the
true self, attempting to rediscover what is behind the layers and layers of
interpretation and programming placed on meaning in this experiential frame.
It is a radical self-discovery. Religion tends to cover-up and create
blankets of beliefs to crawl under and hide from the truth. K strips all
away until you are naked with only life left - raw and unfettered. You
in-corp-orate and reinvent constantly who you are. To me, K is the
antithesis of religion.

Llewellyn
Peace and balance


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