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Recieved: 2000/08/22 21:33
Subject: Re: [K-list] K Pills and Cheap Thrills Poll
From: David Bozzi
On 2000/08/22 21:33, David Bozzi posted thus to the K-list:
Henry ~~~~ wrote:
> Hi, o.k. I will add my two cents. I do not believe in drugs and I have a
> mind set that the drugs are just a way for the mind to play.
What of the mind?
What of the body?
These are the most powerful drugs I know...
> I have smoked
> grass with some *hippie dudes* and it only gave me a headarch. Of course,
> as I was a psychology major at the time, I had the mind set that there was
> nothing to the grass and that it was only the power of suggestion
As is mind
As is body...
> of the
> others in the group around me that makes it work. Of course, I knew that my
> mind was more powerful that the punny minds of the hippie types
Is mind more 'powerful' than judgment?
...or a slave to it?
> If I stick my finger in my eye, I see stars. But this does not mean that
> the stars are really there.
If I believe I am more superior to others
this does not mean that I am...
> Likewise, when people take drugs and see stars,
> it does not mean that the stars are really there.
When god's children believe in a world apart from Him
does it mean that this world is really there?
> I dismiss all the visions
> that people have while on drugs as meaningless, much like dreams.
What of the dream of the world?
> On a
> related note, dreams are better or more spiritual
Only a fool would say such nonsense.
Only a fool could see a difference.
> and drugs are not needed
> to dream.
Only the belief in a self that does not exist...
> And dreaming is a damm sight safer than taking drugs.
Safe from what? From god?
> I went thru the drug culture of the 60's without taking drugs. I was in the
> Air Force at the time. My mind set was and still is, only stupid people
> take drugs.
The ignorant judge...
> And that taking drugs makes a person stupid.
Judgment makes us stupid.
> Drugs are for weak minds or small minds.
What is a weak mind?
What is a small mind?
Only a weak, small mind could know...
> See Ram Dass's book where he gives LSD to his
> guru in India(twice) expecting to teach the Guru a thing or two about
> Enlightenment the American Way. Point, the Guru takes the LSD AND NOTHING
> HAPPENS AT ALL.
But given to an ordinary twirp...
Try it and see what happens...
> Then Guru says, oh, that mediciene you gave me, we knew
> about it thousands of years ago and we have long surpassed it, it is nothing
> at all.
No.
He said, "Why would anyone want to visit the Christ when one can stay?"
> Compared to the real Guru's from India, lsd and other drugs are nothing and
> are not a tool on the spiritual path to Samadhi.
For who?
> Americans may want to play with drugs, so o.k. drugs are a toy but that is
> all.
As is judgment.
> And yes, I have had two teachers who worked with K and My K is alive and
> well.
It is blocked like a damn.
> I am a mystic and have mystical vision----without taking drugs.
You are blind.
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