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Recieved: 2000/05/22 15:46
Subject: Re: [K-list] Ego and Ben
From: Ben Holland


On 2000/05/22 15:46, Ben Holland posted thus to the K-list:


> Hi Ben:
> My emotional self I killed off by
> degrees and left well-buried - in part in response to
> the sheer misery of the life I lived, in part because
> my almost complete empathy with other humans left me
> living both my own misery and that of others from the
> time I was very small.

I am sorry this happend to you. It has happend to many.

> I've dumped vats of fear out of my system thanks to
> the help I got on this list. I have become a feeling,
> sensing, body of energy. I sense energy and emotion
> with the skin on my face, the insides of my nasal
> passages, the warmth around my heart, the emotion in
> my solar plexus and much more that I can barely
> describe. It depends on what is going on. I move
> between states of being that I cannot describe and see
> things that are barely believable to me.

Pranayama is very helpful isn't it.

> What I rarely do any more is think my way through
> things. You cannot think your way into where you are
> trying to go.

I used the knowledge I have gained to help improve energy
devices. This knowledge is based on Tantric teachings. They
fit perfectly with some forms of physics. Much of the devices
that will come on the market soon (free energy devices) are
being created by such people as Honda and Toyota. The science
behind why this devices produce more energy than what is
put in is not understood fully. The reason is because these
free energy devices where discoverd by accident. The free energy
devices use a new form of superconducter. The superconducter was
discoverd by a man named David Hudson. Look up ORMUS on the net
and you can read about his work if you wish.
This superconducter acts as a gateway to something. This something
returns energy x 400 what is put in. The only thing that come close
to discribing this is Tantric Tibetan Teachings such as the Bardo Thodol.

 I've been sitting outside in the sun
> painting landscapes. I've been playing, walking,
> seeing, enjoying, resting, and finally, creating. But
> for a long time, I was a small ermine bloodying my
> nose repeatedly against the cage of this world and to
> some extent, I see you doing the same.

I am more relaxed and at peace that I know myself. I am having a wonderful
time this past 2 years and I feel that it will not stop being wonderful. The
amount of joy I have had is moving in many ways more than one. This is all
thanks to choosing the path that you may think is breaking my back. I work
very much and I now run my own company. I have made good some choices in
life and I have been lucky. I did not force anything I have learnt. If i did
it would all have come to nothing. Instead it became something. I followed
this something and found things. I found a dynamic that I could use to help
me to understand myself a bit better. That dynamic was God.

> There's some very simple ways to go along this Path
> and I rejected them all. Instead, I did it all the
> hard way, not just once, but repeatedly. Might not be
> done doing things the hard way yet, considering
> things. So I have a certain empathy with what you are
> experiencing here.
> However, when you are jousting on this list, you are
> jousting with the Cosmos, which is to say you are my
> right hand and I am your left hand and we can either
> give each other a high five as One or we can punch
> each other. Right now it seems to be mostly punches,
> and I wish that were otherwise for you.

all subject to orientation. I have spoken about some things that some people
can use. I have used them and they went quite well for me. I shared these
things with others and they added more to it by experiancing it. This is not
all my own stuff at all. It is where I would not be here. As for some people
not liking it - We do not all buy everything that see advertised in front of
us on the t.v. Some people on the list have enjoyed what I have said and
have shared good info with me. Some others have not. Such is life.

If you feel
> like getting your nose less bloodied, everyone here
> can give you the information needed to get out of the
> cage. Angelique actually let me out of mine a couple
> of times. Each time I promptly went back inside it for
> a while. Now I feel that I'm out of the cage and won't
> go back in. We'll see. Good luck with your escape, if
> you choose to take it.

Thank you for the information.

Ben

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