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Recieved: 2000/05/18 18:42
Subject: Re: [K-list] P.S....:-)
From: Lynda


On 2000/05/18 18:42, Lynda posted thus to the K-list:

My name is Lynda
Ben, I am going to try to put my response to your post into words.

This again is yet another
> situation, of a highly convoluted and complex threads, of presumptions,
> misunderstandings, errors of judgements, knots. It seems nearly going
> towards out of control proportions.

Glorious Chaos?

> Having speant time looking through the archieves of this site I was
> hoping to find people who may actually be nice.

Oh dear, I'm sorry Ben, but I have no aspirations to be 'nice'. In fact, if
someone described me as 'nice', I'd be mortified. Nice, to me, means false.
It conjures up typically English pseudo-community, the mask of politeness.
But words can be snares. It may mean something completely different to you.

> I ask questions to stimulate a responce that I can find refreshing to use.

'Use' jumps out at me, I am very wary of being 'used', and I'm not sure
whether I want to be a source of refreshment, and with the written word I
struggle to hear the tone that could aid me discriminate between a clumsy
turn of phrase and intent.

> >If you want to start your own cult, I'd say, go for it. Obviously the
> humour
> of the post I sent out was not seen to be humour at all.

I thought this post was 'clever' and witty, but, to me it was not humourous,
my belly did not respond, my feeling tone was sadness.

Why does anyone
> even bother to give information out here...

My experience of this list is that they don't 'give information out', this
phrase gives me a visual image of a soup kitchen. Please understand that
this is not meant to be unkind, it is me being honest about what I saw in my
mind when I read those words. How you receive my words is unknown to me
until you tell me.

> The whole point of a conversation is that things change.

I whole heartedly agree. And my experience is that the ones I care about,
the ones that help me feel, are the ones that produce a change that lasts.

? Seems that I might have to actually use twelve or
> more different ways of saying the same thing before I discover which
> each person likes themselves.

This made me laugh! Boy, do I know THAT feeling, it is an option, but one I
can't be arsed with any longer.

, then I have failed - really really badly,

What floated into my mind as I read this was - there's no sucess like
failure - and I nearly didn't write it down because I winced at my own
predicabilty.

My experience of this group is that it is very much a collection of very
dynamic people whose honesty I appreciate. From where I'm sitting what is
going on could be understood in terms of group dynamics, but there again,
from where I'm sitting it could be understood in all sorts of ways.My
preferred way of understanding what is going on is a celebration of
diversity/unity and for me you are part of that diversity/unity.
I am glad you are here, and I suspect, being the person I am, that at some
time I will irritate you, (if I haven't already!)and when I do, please tell
me.
Best wishes:)
Lynda

There ae two kinds of truths. There are the superficial truths, the opposite
of which are obviously wrong. But there are also the profound truths, whose
opposites are equally right.
Neils Bohr.

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