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Recieved: 2000/05/18 17:11
Subject: Re: [K-list] P.S....:-)
From: Jag
On 2000/05/18 17:11, Jag posted thus to the K-list:
At 12:56 AM 5/19/00 +0200, Ben Holland wrote:
>I have absolutly no idea what the answer to my question was. If I did,
>why would I even bother my time asking it. This again is yet another
>situation, of a highly convoluted and complex threads, of presumptions,
>misunderstandings, errors of judgements, knots. It seems nearly going
>towards out of control proportions.
You seem to beat people over the head with your questions...if we could
explain scientifically, we would. Otherwise it's just the way it is.
*shrugs* People here will answer questions even if they only have a slight
clue...or want to ramble on the subject. Where there is no answer in a
group, asking again and again is not going to produce one. :)
>Having speant time looking through the archieves of this site I was
>hoping to find people who may actually be nice. I have no idea
>why the personal attacks persist or a reason why.
Quite frankly, it is the way in which you write and the tone in your
emails. They aren't personal attacks so much as observations. With this
group, if it were to turn on you and flame you, there'd be no doubt in your
mind about it. Right now we're just noticing things you interpret as attacks.
>I have
>shown the
>posts to more the SIX people at this stage, to give me subjective responces
>as
>to how or why these presumptions are being made. The results are the same.
>On the other groups what I say in responces to e-mails does not get
>missunderstood.
On other groups perhaps they are paying attention only to the written word,
and nothing more. Here, people go with what they notice, as well. Buckle
up. :)
>I ask questions to stimulate a responce that I can find refreshing to use.
Ask the questions to yourself...contemplate them yourself and listen to
what your inner voice says. Those are the only responses that are
refreshing to use.
>When the hell did I ever even start to do this?>?>?>
>What is the problem here? Seems that I might have to actually use twelve or
>more different ways of saying the same thing before I discover which
>each person likes themselves. Maybe it is time to get formal. (I am laughing
>at this stage.)
I like myself very much.
> >>My lord God, who is comparing me to this man with only about fifteen
>of my own posts been sent out. This kind of judgement is not game. What
>made you say the above? It is amazing how three misunderstood posts could
>lead to this. Just like a media eating frenzy.
It is comparing a chakra stage, an evolutionary stage...not saying you are
crazy like DK or that you want to become him.
I've been where you are, having to understand everything from the limited
point of logic...I know how hard the step between the ways of understanding
is to make.
>The whole point of a conversation is that things change. Having said that
>I did say that I was intrested in Free energy devices and how they could be
>manufactured FOR GOOD using our own personal experiances with
>KUNDALINI awaking, that had a number of years ago practising
>pranayama. I would like to talk more about that so that engineering may
>take place. One person responded to that post and gave me some steady
>solid information for building something of this nature. This will not pass,
>but
>will better what is around.
Engineering K? As in trying to outsmart it? K already IS working for
good...perfect divine good, not the limited version of good we think
of. It is divine intelligence; you cannot outsmart it, you cannot
outmaneuver it. Haven't you read in just the last few days how much havoc
K can wreak when you try to impose your will upon it? I have lived that
hell before, and still fall into it from time to time (I am slowly but
surely learning to let K have it's way with me). That's why I'm laughing
at the mention of engineering it.
>Have I ever said anything other than Transendence over the Transistory.??
>If for one moment anyone thinks that I am talking about Karma based
>triffles, then I have failed - really really badly, to even so much as
>flicker anything across that could help me to do the above.
Well....
Everyone has Karma-based trifles :) Unless of course you are a perfectly
enlightened guru, which would explain the misconception of us thinking you
were trying to teach us...we just got lost in the light. :)
>It is beyond me how one arrived at a conclution that I can not use.
It happens every day, to every person. *shrugs* You cannot pull out of
people, what is not there.
Jag
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