To: K-list
Recieved: 2000/04/18 17:30
Subject: Re: [K-list] From the witchfinder general hahaha
From: Kathy Bates
On 2000/04/18 17:30, Kathy Bates posted thus to the K-list:
Tony O'Clery wrote:
> Namaste All, Kathy, the naughty girl!
Heh.
> Fraud gurus hurt people, for in the end they destroy
> trust and spirituality, through people becoming
> disillusioned.
Item one: How do *YOU,* personally, *know* that the guru you're going
after is a fraud? What is your method, what yardstick of Trueguruishness
do you hold them up to?
Item two: Disillusionment happens...it doesn't necessarily mean it's a
bad thing. Take apart the word...loss of your illusions!
> People can learn the same stuff in many
> more places. Frauds have appropriated the teachings
> anyway.
Sounds seriously like a rationalization for your actions. (oh, they
didn't need that teacher that I just raked over the coals, they can find
that knowledge elsewhere)
> Fraud gurus destroy, 'one pointedness', ultimately,
> and this is necessary for any kind of realisation.
How so?
> In the end there is only the 'Inner Guru', but some
> are still very dualistic and so get taken advantage of
> by scumgag gurus, and there's plenty of them.
Your typo, "scumgag" may be revealing. You don't want these gurus to
talk. Why?
Why do your "very dualistic" little innocents need all that protecting?
> It is a violation of ahimsa not to resist evil and
> exploitation.
Is it not harmful to go out and smear people? Perhaps I do not
understand. I read your "this guru is a child-molesting fraud"..."that
guru steals from people"...
To me this could be taken as harmful words. Particularly if it is
untrue. Particularly if it destroys someone who may actually be doing good.
> My style is direct, ignore it, just read my notion.
<obi-wan>
"That's not the droid you're looking for?" <grin>
</obi-wan>
Your style conveys to me, anyway, something that may be distorting your
notion. What *is* your notion? To save the world? (been there, tried
that...decided I didn't know what was best for everybody but me after
all)...perhaps this is what I see when I read your words.
If we don't need another guru, we *definitely* don't need another messiah.
Blessings...
Kath, inquiring mind, must know.
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