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Recieved: 2000/04/18 11:11
Subject: [K-list] frauds
From: Divine Goddess


On 2000/04/18 11:11, Divine Goddess posted thus to the K-list:

Tony,

You are becoming so predictable.

When I start to read your inflamed posts now the image comes to mind
of a street evangelist, yelling on a corner. They make a lot of noise
but no one really listens except the weak and vulnerable, unable to
think on their own.

Your judgments steal away people's experiences of life by saying you
know better. You are turning into a real Jeremiah bemoaning the fall
and whore of Israel.

With all these accusations against gurus today, the wise course would
be to think twice about giving allegiance and love to a guru otherwise
we end up a bitter, angry person when we get burned because our
expectations are not met. That's what happens when we let someone else
make our decisions for us. It's like when we find out our parents have
feet of clay, such a crashing disappointment but we grow out of it.
Gurus make such spectacular targets because they have so far to fall
and make such a flaming crash.

I used to be bothered by these immoral guru stories for several years.
I could not understand how Shakti could be delivered thru some
obviously questionable people. Shouldn't the most devoted, the most
enlightend, the most honorable, the most pure, be the only ones able
to give Shaktipat? The results speak otherwise which leads me to
believe that Shakti (grace) is no respecter of persons, for it is
given and received without merit on the part of the receiver.

How so like unconditional love, don't you think? How fortunate for
mere humans to be able enter into Heaven, thru the gates of ecstasy
based on their value just as they are, not for their works, station in
life, their intellect, their pedigree, their religion, etc. etc. etc.

How long would people wait before they met the arbitrary standard of
being in the best place to give and receive Shakitpat? This statement
is in alingment with the party line of many religions on attainment of
heaven. How long before I am good enough to know God? What do I have
to do to make God accept me? When am I good enough to do good for
others?

If it was me I would have had to give up a long time ago for I am the
least and the weakest in a spiritual discipline. Grace would have
passed me by because I did not measure up. No hope for me.

If you think there are dangers, great, fulfill your mission to prevent
people from receiving grace where ever they might find it. I would
suggest changing your approach though cause you are beginning to sound
really hysterical. It reminds me of anti-abortion protestors screaming
on the street. Ask them if they would be interested in adopting the
babies they want to save and, well, find out how committed they are to
their cause when their responsiblity extends past screaming warnings.I
have found from experience the greater the hysteria the less the
credibility.

I am so judgemental.

A former fundamentalist and evangelist,

Susan

"The moment you have in your heart this
extraordinary thing called love and feel the depth, the delight, the
ecstasy of it, you will discover that for you the world is
transformed" Krishnamurti

"The God of the cannibals is a cannibal." Emerson

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