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Recieved: 2000/04/16 18:08
Subject: [K-list] Re: Kundalini Questions not answerable by FAQ
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 2000/04/16 18:08, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
At 05:42 PM 4/16/00 -0400, you wrote:
>
> 1. If a man and a woman both have awakened Kundalini or shaktipat, and then
> make a child, will that child be born with an awakened Kundalini or
> shaktipat?
All children are born awakened. Babies know that they are perfect and
divine. At around age 2, individuation begins, (toilet training teaches them
they are not perfect, and they learn to say "no") they grow an ego and forget
that the social mask of personality they wear to please their parents is not
who they really are. Awakened parents are less likely to put their children to
"sleep" with disapproval, than unawakened ones.
>
> 2. If shaktipat is given to a mentally 'retarded' or incapacitated person,
> what will the effects be, or what might they be, on that person's
> consciousness and intelligence? It seems that people who are mentally
> 'retarded' or 'incapacitated' would be the most in need for consciousness
> elevation/intelligence increase.
That question is probably inapplicable. Earlier societies believed in the
"Holy fool", that retarded people were closer to God. Modern society makes
different judgments.
>
> 3. Hatha yoga has been combined in the past with biofeedback technology, to
> yield extraordinary results (meditators had gained in weeks a mastery over
> various physical-emotional states, a mastery which normally would have taken
> 5 years or rigorous training without biofeedback)
This is a statement not a question.
>
> 4. What is, or what would kundalini-adepts consider to be the difference
> between Intelligence and Consciousness? Is one just more mystical-sounding
> than the other?
Hmm.. I would say that consciousness does not require thought, only
awareness, wheras intelligence is often associated with logic... a linear
thinking process.
A tree, or a rock is conscious, in it's own way, but it does not think like
a human. A Zen Master exists in a state of no-thought.
I have a silent mind, most of the time..yet, I know things that logically I
could not know. Some would call this psychic ability. There are not IQ
tests to
measure that.
Intuition makes leaps of knowing that logic cannot define or explain. Logic
is a very limited faculty, intuition is not. Logic is linear, intuition works
with a gestalt, a "eureka" of understanding that is not linear, not dependent
on the information collected by the 5 senses. Understanding simply appears
fully formed. It is listening, rather than thinking.
Carl Jung said that the deepest level of the unconscious is the collective,
and there all information resides. Ego is the separation. When Kundalini has
diminished the ego's experience of being a separate individual, information
flows up from the collective, from everywhere without the need for the
"thinking" processes we call intellect. Logic is GIGO.. garbage in, garbage
out. Like a computer, it makes calculations based on what is known, to come to
a conclusion. Intuition does not.
We can describe Kundalini as causing an increase in intellect, because an
awakened person is using a greater part of their brain/mind than an unawakened
one, who is dependent on thinking and logic. An awakened person is accessing
the wisdom of the collective.
To carry the computer metaphor farther, increasing intelligence is like
building a bigger personal computer, more hard-drive, more Ram, better
programs. Kundalini is like removing the harddrive altogether and deleting
most
of the programs, but hooking the individual computer up to the internet, to
all
the biggest supercomputers in the world. The computer now needs no harddrive
storage space, because any information that would be needed can be downloaded
instantaneously. Thinking programs are no longer needed, only a browser to
display the information. The thinking happens elsewhere.
Similarly, an unawakened person thinks of themselves as a separate
individual, an awakened person knows themselves to be only a part of a larger
whole, like a finger is part of the body. A finger does not need to think. It
is impulsed to move, and it moves.
Perhaps you have had the experience of going to sleep wondering about a
problem, and *knowing* the solution upon awakening? In sleep, you carry the
question into the realm of the unconscious, hand it over to the larger,
non-linear part of your mind, and you bring the answer back with you, when
you
wake up.
In Kundalini awakened people, the same process is enhanced so that
sleep is
not needed. The boundary between the conscious and the unconscious is
radically
changed... erased, so that what would be called the ego, is merged with the
unconscious. What remains is simply a lens to allow the consciousness to
function in linearity.. thinking is no longer linear. Information simply
appears in the linear consciousness as needed.
That is part of the meaning of "surrender"... which is the most important
requirement of the process of awakening. Instead of thinking things over for
yourself, with your rational ego mind, you hand the questions over to the
bigger conciousness of the unconscious, the collective, "Divine wisdom", and
intuition gives back the answer. This is the essence of such expressions of
surrender as "Thy Will be done". Letting the infinite part of your mind guide
you, instead of limited rational logic.
There is an expression, "Know nothing, be everything", that describes the
computer metaphor. What I think I know, has been handed over to Divine
guidance, so my mind is silent and my thinking processes almost non-existent..
depending on the degree of clarity I have, on any given day.. Yet, my
consciousness is able to travel outside of my body and have the experience of
being a tree, or a rock.
Einstien set aside everything that was known about physics, and imagined
what it was like to be a photon. He came back with intuitive, experiential
knowledge that he formulated into E=MC2, and the theory of relativity.
This is the difference between knowing and being. Knowing, is belief,
intellect. Being is experiential, intuitive, felt. You cannot learn to ride a
bicycle, from a book. The learning is experiential.
He said "imagination is more important than knowledge".. he oughta know.
Yet, he is considered a great intellect. What he learned, he did not discover
via intellectual thinking, but via imagination. Intellect was used afterwards,
to put the experience into words so the intuitive understanding could be
communicated to those who had not had the experience.
Do you begin to understand the difference?
>
> Also, what is the difference between Intelligence Increase and Consciousness
> Expansion?
I think I have explained that.. Consciousness expansion is partly a
process of identification. Instead of thinking of "myself" as the individual
ego mind and spearate personality, "My Self" is identified with the
collective,
and the individual body is simply a vessel for cosmic consciousness to
manifest
and have the experience of being human. I am that I am. All that is.
Another way to put it, is that "you" are not your thoughts. You are the
silent space they happen in. Right now you identify yourself with the mind
that
asks me these questions.. but I identify you as the silence of infinite spirit
behind the questions, that is playing a role of being an individual human, for
the experience of Being that, and has gotten so deep into the role that you
have forgotten that is is a game.
If I hold that perception of you, (thou art God, I Am God, We are God,
God
is All that Is.) Shaktipat occurs.
On the level of the silence, I am you and you are me..We share the
collective, we are both a part of that. Fingers of the same hand.
God-dess is One, split into illusions of many, for the purposes of having
experiences of love. Love requires "other". Infinite is not divisible, except
in perception.
>
> Are there any meditations, yoga's or practices that you would consider to
> more suited to cause dramatic increases in intelligence and consciousness
> than Kundalini yoga, Siddha mahayoga, or Kriyas?
An odd question, as you probably realize from what I've already written.
If you want to increase your intelligence, Neuro linguistic programming is
good. (NLP)
If you want to expand your consciousness, then Kundalini awakening is the
path, and once awakened, your own intuition would tell you what form is best
suited to your growth. It is not about one being better than another, it is
about which is best suited to you.
>
> 5. Is there any therapy you can give people undergoing Kundalini awakening?
This question is too general to be answerable. Like asking what
medication
to give a person who is ill. Depends on the individual, and the illness. Most
awakened people are not sick, and therefore do not need any therapy.
A general answer, would be that psychiatry is an infant science that
cannot comprehend the mind of the mystic, and tends to judge awakened
people as
insane. I advise awakened people to avoid psychiatry, for that reason.
For a more specific answer, it would depend on the difficulties the
individual is encountering, what therapy I would suggest. If I were to
reccomend a form of psychiatry, it would be Jungian, because Jung was
awakened.
To answer the question in your mind, no, I am not a mental health
professional, doctor, etc. I don't put any letters behind my name, I have no
degrees from any university.
I am a Shaman and a Mystic, and more folks than I could easily count,
credit
me with saving their lives and their sanity... and my method is the same as
Einsteins.. I use my expamded consciousness to become them, and then put the
intuitive knowing into words.
>
> 6. Once the Kundalini is awakened, is it common for a person to have a fear
> of losing Kundalini/shakti or the consciousness and intelligence it
entails?
It is more common for them to fear the loss of their sanity!! :) :) :) To
answer your question, tho, sometimes the K. does disappear for a while,
this is
called the dark night of the soul, or spiritual winter.. but usually, once it
is awakened it remains. You cannot put the genii back in the bottle.
>
> All these questions are very important to me. Thank you for reading them.
> I will use your answers for research purposes, as well as personal ones.
Ah so.. what research are you doing?
I will forward this post to the K-list, and use it to increase
discussion..
>
> Looking forward to your reply,
> -Arturo Desimone
Blessings!
Mystress Angelique Serpent, http://www.domin8rex.com
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