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Recieved: 2000/03/28 22:14
Subject: Re: [K-list] OSHO
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 2000/03/28 22:14, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
At 04:48 PM 3/28/00 -0500, GCWein1111ATnospamaol.com wrote:
He was forced to leave the country as a criminal,
>as l recall. This is not what we expect from a true teacher. l also
>understand that the Osho ashram in lndia continues in this spirit of being
>more of a hedonistic pleasure palace than a venue for serious spiritual
work.
Yaaaaaay! Hedonistic pleasure palaces are where I do most of my
"serious Spiritual work".. always have.. and now I'm building one, myself
and that's why I'm off to look at Osho's hedonistic pleasure palace!
Acts of love and pleasure serve the Goddess.
Attach a polygraph to your pet plant, and head to the other side of the
planet and enjoy acts of love and pleasure, and it will bliss out right
along with you. Makes the flowers grow!
So, from my hedonistic pleasure palace, I will love bomb the rain
forest, and the deserts, and.. probably a few toxic waste dumps, what the
heck?
> So rather than subjective insights,
Is these such a thing as a not subjective insight? Modern physics
thinks not..
> l'd simply
>like to know what evidence there is to support the fact that R planned and
>permitted all this to happen in order to serve as a huge teaching,
Well, if he was living in the moment, then there is not much planning
that goes on, ... With my students, I don't really plan much of anything, I
just follow my impulses and it all turns out OK.. like tonight, I gave a
friend his first spanking, and ended up intitiating him into the Grail, and
the Void.. he is a wiccan High Priest who thought he knew everything.. now
he knows that he knows nothing, but he IS everything..
>rather
>than as just one more cult out of control, which is what we keep seeing over
>and over again. l have an open mind about this and will be happy to
entertain
>whatever evidence is presented.
Well, the other night I watched a TV show about cults out of control,
and their opinion of an out of control cult, is one like Jim Jones or the
Solar Temple, that kills people.
<shrug> The Pope is the richest man on the planet, and is driven around
in a custom made Pope Mobile, that religion has killed lots of people..
Guru means perfect, and the Pope is supposed to be infallible, does that
mean the Pope is a Guru? Hmmmm.. for that matter, what about those Gurus
who died of cancer? Did they plan it like that, or invent reasons for it
after they were diagnosed?
What about that one who said he did it because he took on his devotees
Karma? What a lame-o excuse!! Blaming the devotees because he bit off more
than he could chew..
I'm a Priestess of a 5000 year old rain God who used to be a worshipped
with blood sacrifice.. but it wasn't his idea..
> Of course one can take the position, as Rob has articulated,
>that the only thing one really cares about in this regard is R's writings
(my
>rough paraphrase).
Well, I haven't met Osho.. the only Guru I've met is Grandma Devi, went
to one of her Shaktipat meetings.. but her name was mud around here
recently, too..
>l can't argue with this position. That's a personal
>choice. l used to enjoy his writings long ago. l confess l stopped reading
>him after he fell from grace -- that's just my own preference for teachers
>who can walk their talk.
I teach best, what I most need to learn.. :)
>But again, it's the notion that R never fell in the
>usual sense but intentionally caused this to happen solely to teach --
that's
>the notion l'd like to see support for. jerry
:) Well, it appears that you learned from it..:) :) :) :)
Blessings!
Mystress Angelique Serpent, http://www.domin8rex.com
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