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Recieved: 2000/03/25 20:05
Subject: Re: [K-list] Osho another fraud!
From: Tony O'Clery


On 2000/03/25 20:05, Tony O'Clery posted thus to the K-list:

From: Tony O'Clery <aocleryATnospamyahoo.com>

Namaste All, Angelique,

Amazing how you seem to take my post personally. I
make no claims to spirituality or being an advanced
being. I have desires like everyones else perhaps more
than some. I am commenting on a list not rescuing the
masses from the yawning jaws of ignorance.

The same subject Osho just happened to be on both
lists, I just saved energy that's all.

Still, you cannot eliminate a desire by feeding and
reinforcing the programme, only by giving up the
addiction. One doesn't become a recovering alcoholic
from drinking more whisky. Feeding desires and
addictions just is the wrong way to go, if one wishes
to rise above them.

I am not just guru bashing but fraud bashing! You
don't hear me bashing Jesus, or Ramana Maharshi, or
Nisargadatta Maharaj et al?

Om Namah Sivaya, Tony.


--- Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
wrote:
> At 11:10 AM 3/25/00 -0800, Tony O'Clery wrote:
> >From: Tony O'Clery <aocleryATnospamyahoo.com>
> >
> >Namaste All,
> >
> >"....you can be free of any desire only if you have
> >lived it
> >completely, entirely.
> That's true. What is repressed, comes up ugly.
>
> >If something has remained unlived it is going to
> haunt
> >you" Osho.
> Yep.. seen it in lots of fetishists who try to
> lead "normal lives"..
> it never works.
> >
> >Osho was given to putting fires out by throwing
> >gasoline on them also.
> Yes. with oil well fires, they use dynamite.
>
> >He was a well educated fraud
> >who understood tantra very well, but knew most
> >westerners would misread it as sex. Unfortunately
> he
> >was too weak and attached to his ego to hold up the
> >truth.
> Takes one to know one.
>
> >Desires need to be risen above not fed.
> Well, if you believe that, then why don't you
> rise above your desire to
> insult Gurus, and your desire to post to the list,
> and your desire to
> appear to be an "expert", and your desire to be a
> Guru debunker, and your
> desire to have a great long sig file, and your
> desire to crosspost your
> "wisdom" to several lists at once?
> Rise above all of these desires, Tony, and
> then I will be inpressed
> with how "spiritual" you are.

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ASATHO MA SATH GAMAYA, From the unreal lead me to the real,
THAMASO MA JYOTHIR GAMAYA, From darkness, lead me to light,
MRITHYOR MA AMRITAM GAMAYA.From death, lead me to immortality.
OM, SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI. Om, Peace Peace Peace.

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