To: K-list
Recieved: 2000/03/23 10:39
Subject: Re: [K-list]Osho.. and the application of criticism
From: Danijel Turina
On 2000/03/23 10:39, Danijel Turina posted thus to the K-list:
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamiskon.hr>
At 06:48 2000.03.23 -0800, you wrote:
>From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
>>> Yes, Danijel, I attacked you, and I still attack you, at every
>>>opportunity, only gentler....
>>
>>:) You say that like it's a good thing, to attack me. To interpret
>>everything I say from a superior perspective - "been there, done that"...
>>if it pleases you, you can go on with that forever, but somehow I see it as
>>a bloody waste of time.
> ????? Oh, the reflecton game again..:) but your first post, upon
>returning to the list, you attacked everybody and claimed a superior
>perspective..
:))
I didn't attack anyone, I just said how I see some things, that's all. Calm
down, you're exaggerating with your aggression-defense attitude.
>>Well, I had no other options, since you were wrong in everything
> Yes, you always think so.. :)
No, you were always right and I was always wrong. Happy?
>> except the
>>fact that I overworked myself and that I need a vacation badly,
> Yes. :) But you like flaming me, better than sleep..:) A change is
>as good as a rest, they say..:)
Flaming you takes less effort than sleeping, and it's more natural. ;)))
But I'm not really flaming you, I'm as calm as an iceberg. Titanics can
sink themselves on me, I won't get moved much. :)
>>But I'm long
>>past the phase when I tried to prove you wrong all the time. I accepted the
>>fact that you will never understand me, and when I did that, I lost the
>>need to persuade you and explain things.
> Then why do you still do it?
Do what, persuade you? Naah, I lost too much nerves doing that, now I'm
just talking to you. The fact that we disagree is normal. ;)
>> Do you know your limits, do you know
>>when to stop? When the criticism becomes harmful, counterprouctive, misused
>>and simply hurts everybody without any real reason?
> You really do need more sleep. My post was playful. You are coming
>out with guns blazing.. :)
I'm coming out with guns blazing? Naah, I'm calm and relaxed - almost
asleep. You should have seen what I've sent to hr.news.groups yesterday,
flaming a Christian fundamentalist spammer who flooded a non-binary
newsgroup with dozens of binary attachments, _that_ was coming out with all
the guns. :)
>>I have seen many situations where you made obvious projections - you didn't
>>talk to the real people, but to your images of them, and then you could get
>>extremely violent,
> Who is violent?
You are, you even see it when there isn't any. It's just that it has to
belong to someone else, because you're Goddess. :)
>>but when someone projects me with their shit, and does it with a
>>spiritually-enlightened-self-righteous way, my reaction is disgust, and
>>then I either flame or leave.
> What happened to seeing purity in everything?
You said that everything is Goddess, so I have to say that it isn't,
because otherwise we would agree, and there would be no conversation. :)
>> I'm developing another reaction; resignation.
>>I shrug and don't give a shit.
> I think that is a better reaction.. Shrug, laugh, don't care..
>detachment..
Naah, it's indifference, it's worse than murder. I don't like feeling that.
>>I would really like Sai Baba to be present here and be able to speak for
>>himself. Then I would flame his ass off.
> ROTFLOL!! Well, he's not here, but I guess I'll do??
Naah, he'd be much more tasty, like a ripe piece of fruit to be knocked
down with a rock. :)
>>You will understand Babaji a week after you understand me.
> <shrug> It was nice chatting with him, in my kitchen, that day..
>whether you believe it, or not..
Oh, I believe you. I chatted with a fly on the wall once. It was a very
profound and meaningful conversation. The fly really got to know my inner
nature. ;))
>>No, my judgment, you can call it that, is not about "giving to the poor",
>>no; he should have allowed the students to keep their money,
> Why?
In order for them to feel no difference between having and not having it.
It's not about money changing the owner, it's about the owner rejecting the
idea of ownership.
>>but he should
>>also have helped them to break their inner attachment to the physical
>>reality, to the entire mamata-ahamkara consciousness, of "me-mine"; that is
>>a worthy goal.
> Uh... that's what I was telling you to do, yesterday.. to break some
>possesive attachments that are dragging you down.
:)) Aaaah, I'm being dragged down, glogloglobllllfff...... <drown> ;)
>>As I said, I'll wait for you to come back and tell me about it. :)
> I will.. :) Blessings!!
I think I'll start the bets, about whether you'll still argue with me after
you see me in RL. :))
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