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Recieved: 2000/01/31 15:44
Subject: [K-list] evil, ideals...
From: sasse


On 2000/01/31 15:44, sasse posted thus to the K-list:

From: sasse <metavibATnospamyahoo.com>

Dear Tony, Michael, list,

Tony wrote:

> Is it not a greater violation of Ahimsa or
non-violence
>to standby and permit violence?

Thank you, Tony. I have often wondered how people on
yoga path process the idea of being indifferent to
evil. They connect it with other things like the
ahimsa principle. Did I get this right? It comes
quite close to the thinking that when the ideal cannot
be accomplished then there is the possibility of the
least evil/ violence/ imbalance - if it is not to
act. And the envisioned ideal (creativity versus
risks) depends on the degree of ego attachment? How
would you say it? I would call it seeing the forest
and the trees - I have not acheived the state of being
the forest.

>Om Namah Sivaya

What does it mean?

Michael wrote:

>Now, trying to understand Patanjali, it's important
for me to see that these
>rules and conditions weren't moral imperatives, i.e,
it's not "evil" or "bad"
>not to be chaste, but rather that the mind, when
occupied with chasing
>women/men can't settle into the state of stillness
coming before samadhi.

It makes sense to me when expressed in this way.
(Thinking all the mail you could make a good
commentary.) Yoga makes sense all in all but it looks
like a straitjacket to me - like all other texts - if
meant as THE way. But if taken as notes they get in
and sometimes work...

>I guess that suffering and the "friction" involved in
just living eventually
>opens the hearts and fosters compassion.

Perhaps it is love in its many disguises that opens
the hearts.

Then ideally, maybe one doesn't even
>have to think about whether acts or attitudes are
morally right or wrong -
>compassion and goodness and right action just happen
?

And the infection spreads, all the people get
enlightened and then....

>Yes, there are certain paradoxes hidden within all of
this...
LOL!

All the best,
Sasse

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