To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/12/16 14:37
Subject: Re: [K-list] Pretas and thoughtforms.
From: Tony O'Clery
On 1999/12/16 14:37, Tony O'Clery posted thus to the K-list:
Namaste All,Andrea et al,
With regard to thoughtforms, they can only be
countered by the way they were formed-------thoughts
and mantras etc. If you change the attractive
vibration they won't be coming near you. It's that
simple, to say anyway!
Send them love or pink energy or whatever. Or change
your thinking and don't think of them at all. They
are very dangerous if big!!! There was a huge one over
Russia based on fear from the time of the Czars to the
collapse of Communism. It controlled/fed off, the
country and the thinking. With regard to spirits it is
the same thing you are also a spirit. Have no fear
that is the answer I believe. It is the only emotion
one can be 'hurt' by really, especially in the spirit
world of imagination.
The Devas probably had something to do with a past
lifetime, when people were that big, and a future
event. They are not there now she doesn't need them.
There always protective spirits if you wish, she can
see them that's all. Priyapanda is a form of ancient
Indo-European or even Sankrit, means love-bands I
feel.So as she doesn't speak any of those languages it
must refer to a lifetime probably 12 or even 20,000
years ago.
I agree with your posting. A friend of mine was abused
as a child and another friend 'rolfed', him and found
a large black form in his gut, which he psychically
removed.
Love Tony.
--- Andrea Arden <mysticATnospamwizard.net> wrote:
> Tony O'Clery wrote:
>
> [snipped greatly]
>
> >Namaste All, To answer Jenelle etc.
> >
> >With regard to Pretas and elementals, and thought
> >forms even. . . .Once they realise you have no fear
> and are
> >strong they will desist. . . .With regard to dark
> shapes; these sound like
> >thoughtforms to me. Created by negative emotions,
> >these can plug in to ageless negative master
> >thoughtforms and can control entire countries even.
> >Sometimes people who are sick or have been abused
> play
> >host to these forms. Elementals are usually pretty
> >harmless I believe.
>
> What you say above has been my experience also,
> although I once unconsciously created
> a powerful elemental that caused quite a bit of
> havoc in my own life. It went about
> slamming shut every door of material opportunity
> that opened for me, and I was
> beginning to think I might starve to death! However,
> once I realized the root of the
> problem, I thanked the elemental for being so
> obedient (it was, afterall, my
> creation) and dismantled its energy pattern, and
> that was that.
>
> Tony, would you mind to expand on your description
> of the Blue Devas and
> Priyapandas(?). They sound very interesting.
>
> Love and Blessings,
> Andrea
>
>
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