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Recieved: 1999/12/15 11:37
Subject: [K-list] Pretas and thoughtforms.
From: Tony O'Clery
On 1999/12/15 11:37, Tony O'Clery posted thus to the K-list:
Namaste All, To answer Jenelle etc.
With regard to Pretas and elementals, and thought
forms even. My own experiences with this and more so
my daughter's indicate some points. There are certain
areas where, due to perhaps quietness spirits are more
easily noticed I suppose. (The vibration are more
suitable for communication, perhaps not as thick and
polluted.) Not including what has been imprinted on
the area or what is hanging around.
When my daughter was going through this some years
ago, I was pretty much at a loss but I learned from
the experience. I ended up using mantras to clean the
air. We had to give a lot of support to her until she
was strong enough to control the situation.
She controlled it like this; ' I have a body and I
have a spirit , you only have a spirit, so don't try
to bully or oppress me or you will never reincarnate
and have a body again. You will be stuck there where
you are! Once they realise you have no fear and are
strong they will desist. For the only control
mechanism they have in a non-material world is 'Fear'.
After this some large Blue Devas were available to her
for protection, they were 'large', perhaps 10- 13 feet
high, and wore gold headbands called Priyapandas??
With regard to dark shapes; these sound like
thoughtforms to me. Created by negative emotions,
these can plug in to ageless negative master
thoughtforms and can control entire countries even.
Sometimes people who are sick or have been abused play
host to these forms. Elementals are usually pretty
harmless I believe. However entities are around us all
the time trying to influence our thoughts.
Love Tony.
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