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Recieved: 1999/12/10 20:38
Subject: Re: [K-list] Another poll. Samadhi
From: Jenell
On 1999/12/10 20:38, Jenell posted thus to the K-list:
GCWein1111ATnospamaol.com wrote:
> We must
> make rational judgements concerning both the so called religious experiences
> and the experiencers in order to learn and help prevent future tragedies from
> occurring. lt's one of the primary ways life on this planet evolves.
>
> jerry >>
That this thread should come up now is interesting, a sychronicity for
me, as the matter of care in discerning and interpeting that which might
seem to come through mystical experiences, visions, dreams, clairaudient
voices, etc. I myself expereience quite a bit of this kind of thing,
have to some extent since childhood. And I have learned it EXTREMELY
difficult to interpret, and be sure of interpretation, of these things.
They are almost alwys in contexct of a great deal of wymbolism, and very
often I haven't even come near the real meaning until 'after thef act'.
whatever it was 'forseen' or fortold, happens, and I realize it for what
it was.
I've learned, too, to not get overly eager and impatient thinking I know
what it means, and start acting on it, without waiting to be sure. I
often 'ask' for more information, and if I'm patient, usually get it.
Unfortunately, how to deal with such mystical expereince is NOT a widely
taught skill in most cultures! I can see how some woud easily jump off
into some way off stuff on the basis of a really powerful mystical
experience, vision, dream, etc, before waiting to understand it. and
unfortunately, with such as the bible and other sources as the only
sources most people have, I see how that encourages it. Someone had a
dream or vision or heard a voice, jumped up at once, and on basis of
'god said', went out and slaughtered a bunch of people.
As an excellent 'real life' example I have recntly experienced, I began
to have a clairaudient 'instruction' given to me very clearly, and very
frequently, always saying the same thing. I'm now rather used to that,
by the way, incidents of it back into earliest childhood, so it doesn't
have the starting effect on me it might on some people. But imagine how
some would have reacted to hearing that voice telling me, 'Build unto me
a sanctuary, and it shall be my dwelling place.'
Just what could a runaway ego do with THAT!! This 'voice' is one I love
and respect, having heard it all my life, and I think of it as my
connection to God. It is my Spirit guide's voice. Such might even have
been something like what caused Moses to build the tabernacle tent, or
Solomon the magnificent temple!
However, I decided THIS one really did bear taking some time with,
before I started wondering where this poor woman living in a little
farmhouse older than myself and barely ekeing out a livable income in
East Texas was going to come up with means to build a santuary suitable
for such an one!
So i waited, and i asked, for a bit more information on this one. And
very soon, it began to come in by barious means. It was at that point I
discovered and began to read such mystic writings as St John of the
Cross, St Theresa, the Cloud of unknowing, etc.
All that came hot on the heels of my also having realized and begun
being strongly guided toward restructuring my life in many ways,
eliminating things that drain me and waste my energy and time, get more
seious about the things that affect my health and energy and well being,
rest, right eating, etc, examining and re working the decor in my home
and work environment to be more spiritually and emotionally positive and
healthy for me, get rid of clutter and old junk, make my environment
more pleasant and inspiring, etc. Over all, the things needed to help me
feel, and function, at my best and happiest.
And as I read the writings of mystics about such things as the ascent of
Mt Carmel, Building a Spiritual Castle, etc, all about the process of
developing our bodies as well as our minds and spirits toward a more
perfect union with the divine spirit, so as to live more fully in the
spirit, I realized what those words to me meant. It was THIS body, THIS
mind, ME, that it meant, as the sanctuary! Myself, as the 'temple' in
which he will dwell more fully in my awareness, if I make it more ready
and suitable a place for it. That if I will work to bring my body and
life into a harmonous state, attend to a healthy, enriching and
fulfilling life, in all ways, the spirit will dwell within it.
Sure am glad I waited and didn't do something dumb!
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