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Recieved: 1999/12/08 17:27
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re. K List. Re- Sushumna
From: Jenell
On 1999/12/08 17:27, Jenell posted thus to the K-list:
Marion Hanvey wrote:
>
> Dear Jenell and List,
> A few years ago I had an experience which I am sure was kundalini
> rising through sushumna. This occured through the grace of a guru, and he
> did it because I was in a sorry state at the time. (snip)
> Anyway, to cut a long story shorter, this experience lasted
> for one week, and then because of a course I was doing, I received
> chakra healing as part of the course, and it was just as if someone had
> pulled a plug out of a sink of water. Before I could do anything to stop
> it, the energy drained away, back into the body, the tube
> disappeared and I was back in the same old boring box. (But not in a sorry
> state I was normal.)
this seems to be something like what i've talked some about here that I
a able to convey to otehr people, not k awakened, that i wondered as
being maybe my giving them shaktipat. the strength and duration of the
'effects' does vary quite a bit, as well as just what kid of effects
there are, when I do this. Some seem to later show indications of their
own k rising, or awakening, but not all. Did I in this 'give' them some
k through my own channels, or did I somehow briefly open their own
channels enough for them to expereince k, but not having yet develped
their own channels into an open state, they were unable to maintain it.
I don't know. But that sounds like what you expereienced. What i 'do' by
my own touching others to convey something of this.
And no, those people that expereience this from my touch do NOT then
experience what I have in my own k awakening process, which leads me to
beleive it my 'giving' them some of the 'k' from my ow self, my own
'grace', that I'm drawing upon through my own open channels. I.E., I
shared with them a bit of my own heat, from my own heat source developed
within me , but their heater still isn't operating.
> I don't think kundalini is a separate energy. I think there is only one
> life-energy in the body which manifests differently at different points.
True. Actually, I think the dfference is in what aspects of ourself
we've entered into awareness of it. As in the temperature analogy, the
temperature around us may not change, but if there are changes in our
nerve endings that detect temperature, and convey it and process it into
our awareness, it can SEEM to us there is warmth, or cold, that wasn't
'there' before.
> think the point (or one of the points) of raising the energy through
> sushumna is that sushumna is normally empty, so no physical or emotional
> toxins can be lurking there at a cellular level
> to be reactivated by the energy.
I don't agree with this thought. I don't think there are any levels
within our celluar structre that doesn't contain 'toxins', as you call
it. and for you to experience it in your conscious awareness, it has to
in some way move up from the cellular level, anyway.
> I may be wrong and be taking altogether a too simplistic view.
>
Hey, we are all groping into new territory here.
> I once told a friend who practised Tibetan Buddhism about this experience
> and he said the little ball was the root mind. What's the
> root mind?
I don't know what he meant.
> You seem to be implying in your letter that transformation must be painful.
I don't think it can NOT be. How much so may vary, but there simply
isn't any way growth can take place without some 'destruction' of that
which was already there, and that is going to involve some degree of
discomfort or pain, physically or emotionally. When our perceptions
change, we 'see' things differently, some of that is difficult, becasue
we have formed attachments, even love for, some of that old that we are
faced with discarding. We've contructed our concepts of reality around
those old things. It shakes us to realize we've been 'wrong' about many
things, in our thinking about them, shakes our self confidence, that
alone is difficult.
Jenell
>
> Loulou
>
>
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