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Recieved: 1999/12/08 14:18
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re. K List. Re- Sushumna
From: Marion Hanvey
On 1999/12/08 14:18, Marion Hanvey posted thus to the K-list:
Dear Jenell and List,
What is k?
As I wrote to Hillary before she told me how to post to all(Yes I'm that
thick) A few years ago I had an experience which I am sure was kundalini
rising through sushumna. This occured through the grace of a guru, and he
did it because I was in a sorry state at the time.
Dead centre through my body appeared a tube as wide as my arm, from the base
of the body up through the neck, took a little bend behind the face and
finished at eyebrow centre. (Not sahasrara) Inside this
tube was a little ball which I could send up and down the tube. The
higher up the tube I sent it, the greater the bliss, the lower down
the more subtle the bliss, but the bliss was always there. I tried to send
the little ball into my brain, thinking that I would become enlightened that
way, But there was no opening in the tube for the ball to go into the brain.
(I once read somewhere that a guru can
raise kundalini to ajna for a student, but after that the student is on
his/her own, they have to meditate and then another psychic channel
opens from ajna to sahasrara - whatever I didn't know that at the time.)
Anyway, to cut a long story shorter, this experience lasted
for one week, and then because of a course I was doing, I received
chakra healing as part of the course, and it was just as if someone had
pulled a plug out of a sink of water. Before I could do anything to stop
it, the energy drained away, back into the body, the tube
disappeared and I was back in the same old boring box. (But not in a sorry
state I was normal.)
I don't think kundalini is a separate energy. I think there is only one
life-energy in the body which manifests differently at different points. I
think the point (or one of the points) of raising the energy through
sushumna is that sushumna is normally empty, so no physical or emotional
toxins can be lurking there at a cellular level
to be reactivated by the energy.
I may be wrong and be taking altogether a too simplistic view.
I once told a friend who practised Tibetan Buddhism about this experience
and he said the little ball was the root mind. What's the
root mind?
You seem to be implying in your letter that transformation must be painful.
Why?
Loulou
>From: Jenell <anglfthrATnospamiamerica.net>
>Reply-To: Jenell <anglfthrATnospamiamerica.net>
>To: Marion Hanvey <loulou_3ATnospamhotmail.com>
>CC: kundaliniATnospamList-Server.net
>Subject: Re: [K-list] Re. K List. Re- Sushumna
>Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 14:17:46 -0600
>
>I think you may consider seeking a fuller understanding of just what k
>is, and isn't. You indicate wanting to find a way to 'rase' it, but not
>experience an 'pain'. from the effects of it.
>
>what is it you want to 'expereience', that you think you would
>experience, in raising k? Just the novelty of it? Something pleasurable?
> You must have a reason for thinking you want to know how to raise it.
>
>But, on the other hand, to also say you want to find a way to do so
>without also experiencing pain, suggests you lack understanding of what
>k is. It is the energy of transformation. and transformation is not,
>cannot be, an entirely 'painless' process. The 'pain' expereinced is
>connected with growth process, and is, therefore, part and parcel, to
>some extent, of the k process.
>
>At least that's my understanding and thoughts on it, anyway.
>Jenell
>
>Marion Hanvey wrote:
> >
> > Dear List,
> >
> > Does anybody know any techniques for definitely raising kundalini
> > up through Sushumna, and not any other nadi. (I don't like pain,
>physical
> > or emotional)
> >
> > I was going to send this as a reply to Dr Harka's post about the
> > teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi, but it didn't seem fair to. as it
> > wasn't directly related. (I may still do that though if this doesn't
> > work, I'm not very au fait with computers.)
> >
> > By the way, I agree, Dr Harka, that only the Self is real. The rest is
> > God's entertainment. God's T.V.
> > (Well I think so anyway)
> >
> > Cheers
> > Loulou
> >
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