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Recieved: 1999/12/07 11:54
Subject: [K-list] Sleeping
From: winter mute


On 1999/12/07 11:54, winter mute posted thus to the K-list:


Neat synchronicity, was just reading
about sleep, REM and NREM in a basic
neuroscience text book 30 mins ago. :))

On 7 Dec 99 12:19:11 +0000 Paul wrote:

>I've tended to have had various k experiences during sleep time, or
>what in many cases becomes `awake while sleeping' time. Is this true
>of anyone else?

Yes, it's typical of active Kundalini.

I suspect it happens with many ppl on this
list.

Personally, I
follow myself into sleep and watch all the
weirdness that appears in the
true no man's land b/n wake and dreaming
every night.
There is only disappearance for a few
hours each night when sleep is at its deepest.

I have read many formal descriptions of
the experience of sleep and dreaming,
notably REM sleep, but none that describe
the waking state inside sleep and the
sensing-but-not-controlling state.

At first, it was very disconcerting seeing
the film of dream and sleep roll before the
mind without being able to do anything about
it.
I did a lot of thumb twitching while
"sitting" there, often thinking
"when is this silliness going to end ?",
but now I just sit back, relax and enjoy the
show. :)

>It was at about that point that either I snapped out of the altered
>consciousness or simply `woke up' back into `normal waking world.' I'm
>fairly sure I was probably not in the physical world during the whole
>thing.

Yups, that happens too.
With some training, you can tell when you're
in the dream bubble, somewhere between it and
the outside astral realm or fully "outside".

>This and many other strange things have occured during my sleeptime,
>and more than once there seems to have been a `kundalini being' that
>manifests an appearance. Has anyone else experienced k as a
>manifestation in some way?

Funny you should mention that.

This has started to happen for me and 3 nights
ago, I woke up by somebody was putting their
hands around the soles of my feet.

It was an increadibly sensual experience, and
when I looked up, there was a woman giving me
a very sensual and loving
 foot massage (yes, I know how lurid that
sounds ;)) ).

During the massaging,
energy was dispersed from the soles of the feet
to the middle of the waist, without the
usual kriyas, so I take this was not happening
in the physical body.

Similar thing happened last night, but this time
Kundalini appeared as a male.

There are many instances that Kundalini
has appeared as a person for kundalites.

I think it's a translation of the mind.
:)

Best regards,

Amanda.

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