To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/12/06 18:21
Subject: Re: [K-list] Fwd: Using God's name in vain
From: Wim Borsboom

Dear James,

You wrote:
>>So, to speak of "God" is to frame the conversation in a conceptual tone.
It
>>is not using any name. It is not taking any name in vain. I hope I do
not
>>need to add, but will anyway, that I do not speak here of outright profane
>>usage by those far with no greater knowledge with which to express their
>rage.

>>I post this sincerely, wondering how I, who have no similar concept, would
>>dialogue with someone who holds a concept of a creator deity if my very
>>reference to such deity would taking "his name in vain."

I agree very much with your deliberations on God, god, or using the name of
god in vain.

Now about your name, James :-).
James is the brother of John, the young apostle, the young beloved of Jesus.
James (another person and a very important person in early Christianity, CF.
San Diego) is considered by very respectable sources as the brother of
Jesus.
I myself, for some reason, identify very much with the John, Jesus's young
beloved, James is my brother. I have a fond memory of him. There, you must
feel good now...:-)
BTW. I do not hold to the idea of past lives and reincarnation the way it is
popularly described. WHAT IS is at once too simple and too complex for such
a naive and time linear concept.

Here is some stuff from the net.
http://www.pacificcoast.net/~muck/etym.html
JAMES (m) Latin/English form of JACOB that comes to us through the Latin
form Iacomus. In the New Testament James is an important apostle, the
brother of the apostle John. The Book of Acts states that he was beheaded by
Herod Agrippa. Another James is also mentioned in the Bible as being the
brother of Jesus. Kings of England and Scotland have had this name. Other
famous bearers are James Watt, the inventor of the steam engine, and the
novelist and poet James Joyce.
JACOB (m) "to hold the heel" or "supplanter" from the Hebrew name Yaakov.
The biblical Jacob (later called Israel) was born holding on to his brother
Esau's heel. He was the son of Isaac and Rebecca and the father of the
twelve founders of the twelve tribes of Israel. The German linguist and
writer Jacob Grimm was, with his brother Wilhelm, the author of 'Grimm's
Fairy Tales'.

Enjoy yourself, well at least your name.

Love as always, Wim

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