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Recieved: 1999/12/05 16:10
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Another poll. Samadhi
From: Gcwein1111
On 1999/12/05 16:10, Gcwein1111 posted thus to the K-list:
In a message dated 12/4/99 10:04:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, CKRESSATnospamaol.com
writes:
<<
> (identification with an object, accompanied by higher thought forms) and
> nirvikalpa (identification with the transcendental Self only, devoid of
any
> content of consciousness). Some traditions refer also to sahaj samadhi,
a
> spontaneous ecstasy while still in am embodied state. ( l got this from
> Feurstein's Encyclopedia of Yoga --- just a few excerpts)
What is meant by "object" in this context? I've had spontaneous shifts
where
I've morphed into the consciousness of a tiger, a crocodile, a sunflower
(that was euphoric), and a whole garden of plants and trees. Also I once
tapped into the consciousness of an ant colony, again totally unexpected.
What a rush: a sheer liquid-symphony of energy. None of these involved
"thought" in the ordinary sense, but rather a sensory/instinctual or
astral/energy consciousness.
I've experienced the Self/Void state, devoid of ego/body but still a state
of
primordial/source consciousness in which all creation was experienced as
illusion/maya/nothingness. When consciousness is totally absent, how is
there awareness of this state? Is it like a total blackout? If so, how
does
it register in mind/memory? >>
Hello El,
Hey, are you directing these questions at me, knowing what
little l know about this stuff? Ha Ha That's why l was careful to mention
Feurstein as my source, so no one would think l was claiming personal
knowledge. Anyway..... l would think "object" as it's used would refer to
whatever the object of meditation is -- mantra, yantra, deity,whatever --
given that the Hindu traditions are usually talking about samadhi as a
meditative state. And, maybe l'm wrong, but l haven't understood this as a
state in which consciousness would be totally absent. The Self/Void state
which you've experienced (and remembered) sounds very much like it to me.
jerry
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