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Recieved: 1999/12/04 21:34
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Another poll. Samadhi
From: joel


On 1999/12/04 21:34, joel posted thus to the K-list:

>> Samadhi is definitely not the same as epiphany. lt refers
>> generally to a profound state of ecstasy --- a complete merging of
subject
>> and object in its highest form. The traditions distinguish between
>savikalpa
>>
>> (identification with an object, accompanied by higher thought forms) and
>> nirvikalpa (identification with the transcendental Self only, devoid of
>any
>> content of consciousness). Some traditions refer also to sahaj samadhi,
a
>> spontaneous ecstasy while still in am embodied state. ( l got this from
>> Feurstein's Encyclopedia of Yoga --- just a few excerpts)
>
>What is meant by "object" in this context? I've had spontaneous shifts
where
>I've morphed into the consciousness of a tiger, a crocodile, a sunflower
>(that was euphoric), and a whole garden of plants and trees. Also I once
>tapped into the consciousness of an ant colony, again totally unexpected.
>What a rush: a sheer liquid-symphony of energy. None of these involved
>"thought" in the ordinary sense, but rather a sensory/instinctual or
>astral/energy consciousness.

Yes, i'd like to know too.. if possible..

>
>I've experienced the Self/Void state, devoid of ego/body but still a state
of
>primordial/source consciousness in which all creation was experienced as
>illusion/maya/nothingness. When consciousness is totally absent, how is
>there awareness of this state? Is it like a total blackout? If so, how
does
>it register in mind/memory?
>
>I know that transpersonal experiences are very difficult to verbally
convey,
>and sometimes they get codified in spiritual literature in a misleading or
>inaccurate way. I've had numerous epiphanies -- not mental realizations,
but
>different perceptual/awareness/experiential states, all of which are hard
to
>explain to anyone who hasn't "been there" in a similar way. Although it
>seems arbitrary to me to break them into categories, if hard pressed, I'd
say
>mine have been either of an extreme expansion of consciousness "awakening"
>type, or of a merging/consciousness "oneness" type.
>
>Once, for instance, while listening to a street musician playing guitar and
>singing in a park, I merged with his music. I was no longer hearing it, I
>simply WAS it. Although I was in the back of a crowd of about 40 people
>gathered to enjoy the music, when the musician finished his set, he walked
as
>if hypnotized straight through to me and seemed intent on connecting with
me.
> I didn't tell him about my merge-experience (figured he'd think I was
nuts),
>but I knew that it had something to do with why he'd been drawn to me. We
>went to a nearby cafe together and realized that we both felt as if we were
>in an inexplicably altered state. We started talking about
synchronicities.
>He told me that although he'd never had a paid job, he never lacked
money --
>it just appeared from the universe when he needed it. The moment he said
>that, a penny flew through the air from who-knows-where and landed directly
>on our table. While it delighted us, neither of us were in the least bit
>surprised. At the time, it seemed like the most natural thing in the world
>that the universe would validate his statement...

oh wauw.... :)

>
>El
>

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