To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/12/03 19:31
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Another poll. Samadhi
From: Kungajigme
On 1999/12/03 19:31, Kungajigme posted thus to the K-list:
In a message dated 12/3/99 5:19:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, DruoutATnospamaol.com
writes:
> If you don't mind side by side polls, I've been meaning to ask this for
ages.
>
> 1. How many of us have experienced Samadhi or Satori or other equivalents
I would have to say that I have. I have to also add, though, that my
experience and my instruction lead me to believe that neither of these terms
refer to an absolute state. One has many "samadhis", many "satoris" in life;
at least I hope one does. Perhaps this is a different recognition of these
terms than is implied in this poll and so I qualify my answer so.
Often these terms are used in lieu of a western term for the experience.
For the experiences I understand to be "samadhi" and "satori" I find
"epiphany" to be appropriate. Perhaps this term is shunned by some because
of its connotations and association with certain religious traditions.
Stripped of these connotations I find the definition to be similar enough.
> 2. How often?
Not as often as I would like! LOL! Yes, I laugh at my own jokes. If
I don't, why should I expect you to? Anyway, I find these experiences occur
in varying degrees of intensity. I also find that they occur in various
levels of my being; sometimes it is my mental body, sometimes emotional,
sometimes physical (re: my post about accidents). The best occur
simultaneously in all. Read that anyway you wish!
> 3. Did it come early or later in your K experience.
Early, perhaps even predating K awareness. Then again...are there any
non-K experiences? To my mind now, all experience is K. At some point this
awareness became self-referential and "self" divested itself of meaning;
becoming; perhaps awakening is "verbing" the noun of self.*
> 4. Will you take a stab at describing it?
To quote Firesign Theatre: "Everything You Know is Wrong!" Not
literally, but yes. Some or all of the assumptions, axioms,
predicates...call them what you will...about the world, one's view of the
world, are proven untrue or true in an incredibly profound self affirming ego
denying way.
Take the world, as you know it...turn it all upside down...but find out
that you are standing on your head!
* "I seem to be a verb."
-- B. Fuller
.../*\....../*\....../*\...
Sarva Mangalam!
~James
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