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Recieved: 1999/12/01 12:36
Subject: [K-list] After death for Nasir!
From: Tony O'Clery
On 1999/12/01 12:36, Tony O'Clery posted thus to the K-list:
Namaste Nasir et al,
Nasir it all very subjective and depends on the
contents of your mind beliefs etc. Having said that
let me say this. I have been in the habit of
'visiting', friends and relatives who have died. It
is something that I learnt or was triggered in India.
I usually find that I can talk to them whilst they are
still in their vital double body, just as you can at
this level. However they drop this body and go through
the second death after a few days or more, in these
cases anyway. Sometimes other beings come to meet
them. I usually find the shell of their vital bodies,
then I know they have moved on.
After this it is more difficult to contact them and
requires more 'meditation'. In some circumstances ,
if they were spiritual and have gone to a higher
plane. I found some in a kind of 'spiritual school'
preparing for when the reincarnate. These didn't have
a human form but amorphous light etc. Others had
created a world, on a lower plane, much like the one
they had left, it depends on the person. These on the
lower planes had a body imaged in what they used in
life on this planet.
Hope this helps you, you go were your mind goes! The
initial period in the border-plane bardo is the
closest and they need a lot of prayer whilst in there,
it seems to help them move on. In my experience nobody
stayed in there for more than a week. However there
are lost souls and pretas or ghost that can hang
around.
Love Tony.
P.S. Does anyone else have similar experiences??????
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