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Recieved: 1999/12/01 10:50
Subject: Re: [K-list] nectar
From: Wim Borsboom
On 1999/12/01 10:50, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list:
Dear Con Amore,
Thank you for your response.
You are very right about the saliva and the salivary glands.
The nectar phenomenon is not the same though:
. The taste is saline. When you collect and
taste it with the tongue it tastes and smells like a light
kind of sea-water. (Watered down sea water so to say.)
. The colour? It is very clear, brightly transparent.
. The consistency is like jelly-fish.
In fact, one of my first nectar experiences came with a
strong visionary jelly-fish connotation.
. The stuff is in no way the same as phlegm that one gets from colds
and that comes from nasal passages.
It is in no way the same as the phlegm
that one might get from dairy allergies or the like.
. The place of exudation at the back of the mouth just
above the soft palate, from the bottom of the skull.
. The physical feeling when exudation takes place
(a sweet release of some musculature)
. The spot where it drops, (sweet feeling again)
is a spot on the very back of the tongue
Where/when the drop(s) touches, one feels a sweet erotic
very light touch.
. It tastes *like* sweetness, but the word 'taste' is not accurate
the sweetness is like quince jelly, very much like it.
. When in a meditative visionary state one actually
sees a beautiful fiery glowing orange red
conglomeration of droplets.
. I my case I can regulate the amount of release with
spinal movements. Also touching certain spots of the spine are
affect the amount of release.
. I can do the same with my adrenal glands,
spinal movements affect the release of adrenal hormones.
. With the nectar release the spinal movement is
at the bottom of the spine, a gyrating 3.5 turn, clock
and counter clock wise. But very often just a simple
quick backward tilt of the pelvis will do.
. The mental state one is in does not affect the release.
I experimented with that a lot.
I can be angry (have to work hard to get angry though)
I can be sad (have to work hard at that too)
I can be neutral, make myself despondent...
It does not make a difference, the nectar drop is always there.
. The only thing that can negatively affect it is when the spine is
not in a good condition.
Tiredness does not affect the release though
I purposely created headaches, even though neck induced,
the nectar drop is still there.
. I can regulate the amount of the nectar release,
. It seems now an unconditioned response to "nothing"
However stupid that may sound.
. I used to think that I should not be sexually active to
increase the amount, or to affect the exudation.
Even though initially that was the case,
now I can have it both (lucky, lucky me)
The Buddha (Siddharta Gautama) had same. In one of my (visionary) memories a
meeting was called together by him. The *5 & 7* came together. The nectar
phenomenon was discussed.
. It was noted very strongly that this nectar release
and the concomitant ecstasy was UN-conditional
. That it also came with the realisation that morality
is an acquired set of behaviour.
That a realised person is indeed un-moral
(do not confuse this with immoral)
. They found out that, what we now call psychopathic behaviour
can indeed come with the same nectar and ecstasy release.
To safeguard un-social, a-social or even anti-social behaviour, rules were
set up to make sure that the ' prospective practitioners of this yoga (not
the right word at all, but it will have to do)' had to go through rigorous
pre-training, hinayana and mahayana approaches resulted from this.
Loving kindness became an absolute prerequisite 'behaviour' as to ensure
that when the un-moral, non-social, non-god realization came through that no
social harm would result.
This may sound strange and almost contradictory. But it was of the greatest
concerns of the group of 5 & 7. (I can at this point not say too much about
this 5 & 7 'agency', sorry. )
Please DO take me serious here, I am not making this up, please consider
this.
When one, at one point, near the end of the kundalini process of
're-origination' tackles fearless-ness and non-morality, one goes through a
final test.
This test is not in any way like an academic test, non graded.This test is
totally non judgmental. One actually gives up judgmentality radically. It
is the scariest and free-est of realizations, the test of all tests.
One eventually gives up on the the whole idea of God as .... fill in any
and all of the usual attributes.
That's why final (if there is such a thing) realization is non-theistic.
Non-theistic realization is not the same as or does not lead to atheism.
So much for nectar, or ambrosia, or soma, or elixir, or amrita or.... the
taste of immortality.
So much love, Wim
PS. I recall that in the "Aquarian Gospel" Jesus goes through similar
tests. Look it up it is by Levi or so. Whatever one thinks about channelled
(re)sources, this book is very inspiring and is authentically vision based.
I'll look it up on the web, just one second. There it is
AQUARIAN GOSPEL OF JESUS THE CHRIST
by Levi
$22.50, paper. Devorss & Co..
isbn 0875161685
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