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Recieved: 1999/11/30 17:53
Subject: [K-list] Re: kundalini-digest V1 #480
From: Jeanne Garner


On 1999/11/30 17:53, Jeanne Garner posted thus to the K-list:

At 05:01 PM 11/30/99 -0700, Roger wrote:

Dor wrote to Zala:

>>Now please, may I ask you to get off your soap box and start
>>accepting others as much as you accept yourself? In other words, dear Zala,
>>give it a rest, it's a no win argument that you are presenting.
>>
>>So - instead of responding with harsh critism, take it all in your stride
>>and leave well enough alone... this line of rhetoric will go nowhere, and
>>you will be using a lot of bandwidth for those who pay for the time they
>>spend on their computers to receive and give information pertaining to the
>>trials and tribulations of that which we call kundalini.
>
>I think this is a rather rude statement.

How so? I thought it was well-written, and perhaps a little more authentic
than most of the vegetarian pap I've been reading.

>As food intake has a lot to do
>with the energy kundalini.

Roger, I'll be really blunt. Some people require more SUGAR to feed their
k, others require more VEGGIES or FRUIT, and still others require more
MEAT. So yes, food intake does have a lot to do with k-energy--but it's
not always the same food for everyone. I've said it before, but I think
I'm p*ssing in the wind because die-hard, foaming at the mouth
fundamentalist vegetarians refuse to hear it: ONE SIZE (or path) DOES NOT
FIT ALL. It never does. The Universe created each person uniquely, to be
a unique expression of the One. Some of these creations will wear blue,
some pink, and some--nothing at all. It is the Will of the Creator/ess
that it be so. When you insist, as you and Zala are doing, that everyone
become the same, you go against the Way and the Will of the One. It's
unnatural.

>The purer more refined foods allow for greater
>flow of energy.

Refined foods? Like white sugar, like bleached flour that has all the
nutrients removed? Well, maybe it helps YOUR energy, but it would kill me.
 Slowly, but surely.

>Where and in what text do you find someone refering to a
>meat centered diet as being good for ones energy system? What yoga are you
>talking about.

As Mystress Angelique Serpent has said, many northern cultures did not have
the luxury of paper, and did not write. Native Australians, among several
cultures, did not even have an alphabet. That does not mean they were not
spiritual; in fact, all the evidence says otherwise. However, read a bit
of the Tibetan texts, where some lamas tell you to eat more meat when
working with the gTummo. Others, I'm sure, can provide more. I doubt,
however, that you'll pay much heed to it, because your mind seems pretty
much closed and locked.

>I suppose it depends on ones stage of growth. I feel when one has reached a
>certain stage of development a meatless diet will make sense. Before that
>stage people can go on endlessly, emotionally defending their diet.

Stages of growth? Let me see, by that statement can I assume you believe
yourself much higher on the "ladder" than the rest of us meat-eating
low-lifes?

That is the height of arrogance.

I really hate to see this list become the official voice of the vegetarian
branch of the food nazis. I actually left one otherwise ok list (Harsha's)
because I grew weary of this kind of preaching. I don't preach to YOU that
you should eat meat, so cut the crap and quit preaching to me (and other
omnivores) that we shouldn't eat meat. If you've found a nice way to eat
that agrees with you, bravo. Now, leave everyone else alone and let them
find their own way in this.

On the other hand, if this list is officially vegetarian, someone please
notify me, so I can remove myself from the mailings. I promise, I'll go
quietly.


 Jeanne

===-* My Stars!

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