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Recieved: 1999/11/25 15:34
Subject: [K-list] Ahimsa,Awareness.
From: Tony O'Clery


On 1999/11/25 15:34, Tony O'Clery posted thus to the K-list:


Namaste All,

The trouble with mind is that it is convoluting,
errant, self-deceptive, and its very nature is to
doubt and yet grab. Like a baby not reacting to a
lollipop, for it is in doubt, but when you move it
away it reaches out and grabs.

  I feel this problem is caused by the fact that for
nearly all people the consciousness is in the lower or
manomayakosa, even the so-called brilliant
intellectuals. They are really not intellectuals for
they are not in the sheath of awareness, the
vijnanamayakosa. This is why it is futile to argue
vegetarianism, for example, from a point of view of
Ahimsa alone. For all you will get are excuses and
rationalisations for behaviour not legitimate
argument. Plants do not have advanced nervous systems
like animals. Therefore it is a step in the right
direction, it is the intent that is important. It is
trying to do the impossible in a plane where
everything is really food of one sort or another. But
try we must or stay in the intellectualising of the
manomayakosa, where it all seems so logical,
legitimate and right. Right in illusion!

 Compassion is the essence, not material spirituality.
Compassion and Ahimsa cannot be learned intellectually
for they are above even the most brilliant of minds
and go to the very centre of our being. Awareness has
to be brought down into this world so to speak, then
the penny drops. Otherwise it is just the ego the
thief in the palace that talks and rationalises. I
am convinced that one can be spiritual and a
meat-eater for example but I don't really feel one can
be a meat-eater and achieve Moksha or Liberation, no
matter the level of intellectual understanding. For
Compassion and Ahimsa are the nature of the Self and
cannot be learned only become.

Love Tony.

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