To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/11/22 10:51
Subject: Re: [K-list] Return of the dart board factor
From: Ckress
On 1999/11/22 10:51, Ckress posted thus to the K-list:
In a message dated 11/22/1999 3:30:31 AM Pacific Standard Time,
KungaJigmeATnospamaol.com writes:
> Actually, I was wondering if El was Asian and if her post was meant to be
> saying that she actually was offended.
>
> El wrote:
> >I know you intended the above to be whimsical, but please, please,
consider
>
> >others before you post. Those of Chinese or Asian heritage may not find
> your
> >rendition of pidgin-English too funny. If you want to sound authentic,
try
>
> >writing it in Chinese!
>
> So, El, with all due respect, I have to present how I reacted to your
> statement. I read your use of "those" and "may" to say that you are not
of
> Asian heritage and that you were not offended. Again, this is just my
> reading of the language you used, please correct me if I am wrong.
Because,
>
> if that is the case then it seems that you presume to speak for others as
if
>
> they were unable to speak for themselves.
>
> Sarva Mangalam!
> ~James
>
My own heritage is mostly Anglo/European, but because of the Native American
(from my great-grandmother), I have an ethnic-looking appearance which has
been taken for Hispanic, Eskimo, Mayan and Asian. My sister-and-law and one
of my dearest friends are both Chinese-American. My friend has spent most of
her life trying to overcome an inferiority complex that arose in large part
because of cultural-stereotyping-type ridicule she and her family were
subjected to while she was growing up. So yes, I am very sensitive to this
issue and to all racism.
As soon as I sent my post objecting to Amanda's caricature (that's how it
struck me), I got a strong sense that she might be Asian herself. Still
didn't seem ok to me. If I were to post something demeaning to women to the
list, I don't think the fact that I'm a woman would excuse it. Maybe some
people --of Asian or other heritage -- thought Amanda's post was no big deal.
But I would have felt very ashamed if my friend or sister-and-law had seen
it, and if no one on this list of 400+ people had protested, giving the
impression that we all thought it was fine.
El
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