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Recieved: 1999/11/15 20:32
Subject: Re: [K-list] kundalini
From: Wim Borsboom
On 1999/11/15 20:32, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list:
>Some ppl have hypothesized that Kundalini
>awakens by itself when the soul has hit rock bottom,
>when it has come as far away from the original
>source as it can get.
This is so right on!
Wim
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From: winter mute <mumblecatATnospamangelfire.com>
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Date: Monday, November 15, 1999 1:08 PM
Subject: [K-list] kundalini
>
>---
> Only the gate
> of the abbey is left,
> on the winter moor.
>
> -Shiki
>
>On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:00:43 Wim Borsboom wrote:
>
>>The Kundalini PROCESS is your own self-regenerative process that restores
>>you to your fully integrated dimensionality of being, your total
>>re-integration. One's original total being and one's space-time-related
>>present being CONDITIONLESSLY coincide in One's human/divine Unity .
(Notice
>>the capitalization of One and one.)
>>This fully integrated dimensionality can be quite effectively and rather
>>comprehensively described (though always falling short of course, as it is
>>after all STILL conceptual) by using the 7 (or more) chakras system as
>>evidenced in the cerebro-spinal-fluid circulatory system, or the 7 (more
or
>>less) koshas system as evidenced in the human gross and subtle body/aura
>>unit.
>
>>Your quote/unquote psycho-spiritual-ideation-that-arouses-divine-feelings,
>>is part of a full realization at the brow-crown chakra levels. It cannot
be
>>separated from or qualified as more or less supreme (I know you didn't say
>>that, so it is my emphasis ) than the realization at the (for argument's
>>sake) root-sacral chakra levels, where the more vital-creative aspects of
>>One's total being are realized.
>
>:) Yes.
>Many sources describe a "different" Kundalini as
>it rises from the muladhar to the sahasrarar.
>But they are really all the one and the same,
>only seen from a varying perspctive.
>How otherwise could it be "Kundalini" ?
>
>>Kundalini is the healing process of the degenerated human/divine being. I
>>know integral beings who will not await and are not anticipating this
>>process.
>>K is not a sign of being someone special, K is not a grace, K lets us
>>recover our original grace. Everyone-not-whole is in some stage of
>>Kundalini's recovery process, often interrupted. Everyone-not-whole sooner
>>or later will realize the K process.
>
>:)) This is my experience too.
>
>I was very sick, not physically or
>even psychologically but
>spiritually prior to K starting
>to move in earnest.
>
>It had then been working at a low and almost
>invisible level up until then.
>
>Since my last memories from the previous life
>and the first memories of this life
>is that of Kundalini moving,
>I seriously believe one major reason for me to be
>here this time around is to heal up and
>experience the
>wholeness that Kundalini can afford.
>
>Some ppl have hypothesized that Kundalini
>awakens by itself when the soul has hit rock bottom,
>when it has come as far away from the original
>source as it can get.
>
>I don't know about this, but I suspect it may have
>been the case for me...
>
>Other ppl have hypothesized that Kundalini awakens
>when a balance b/n "good" and "bad" karma has
>been reached and the soul is ready to do some
>serious work.
>
>I don't know about this one either. :)
>
>>The Kundalini process finishes naturally... dissolves into redundancy when
>>integration is realized at an instance of 'time/space-less', the
>>unconditioned realization of all multi-dimensional conditions. This
instance
>>goes by unnoticed... it is no big deal.
>
>Really ?
>
>:) I thought it would arrive with big fanfare and
>mucho spectacle, fireworks and the like.
>I am so disappointed now. ;))
>Now I don't have anything to look forward to
>in my dreary Kundalini Boot Camp life... ;(
>
>>The story of recovery may be a big
>>deal, mine for example is, but then I endured a lot of deception. The
story
>>in itself is not important, although very interesting, a testimonial only
of
>>when and how the illusive calamity of human deception started and
>>degenerated in my line of memory.
>
>Nice. ;)
>
>>The K process, when uninterrupted, takes 960 days, to which an additional
>>optional 40 days (960 hours) and another optional 12 days can be added.
>
>
>Again, where do you get these numbers from ?
>
>I have seen averages from 3 years to 10.
>And always regarded 3 years as pretty fast
>but heard of shorter times. :)
>like e.g. Buddha, who spent 7 weeks. ;)
>
>>There is an 'AHA Erlebniss' hidden in there somewhere...
>
>Aha, I see... ;)
>
>>Please, give the above ideas a chance before reacting, you may be
surprised
>>at the intensity of your agreement down the line... ;-)
>
>LOLOL ! I really do hope so. :)
>
>Thanks for your input, very interesting to read.
>Most sources are veeery tightlipped about the
>process for fear of... what ?
>
>Best regards,
>
>Amanda.
>
>
>
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