To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/11/15 07:50
Subject: Re: Humility (was Re: [K-list] Shaktipat?
From: Jenell
On 1999/11/15 07:50, Jenell posted thus to the K-list:
Jenell wrote:
>
> Adele Chatelain wrote:
> >
> >
> > That quote about Crowley and killing the dog: well,
> > as you know, in Buddhism one is supposed to work past
> > the disturbance (one wouldn't kill one's next door neighbors
> > because they were making noise---although one would like
> > to!:-))
> > I remember teaching meditation and it seemed like just as
> > soon as the class started to really get into the
> > meditation---
> > that was the time the jack-hammers outside the window (to
> > widen
> > the road) began! It was kind of funny. But it was also
> > an opportunity for us all to go beyond the noise.
> > Adele
> >
> I agree absolutely! Having had some experience in training animals,
> there is a technique called 'proofing'. After you've gotten an idea
> across to the animal, achieved consistent desired response in a
> sheltered, quiet, non-distracting situation, you add deliberate
> distractions, 'temptations', that are sure to cause the animal to
> 'break' from what it has been taught. The point being, so that you can
> 'reinforce' the lesson under more demanding cirucumstances. It doesn't
> do a lot of good to have taught a dog to immediately come when called in
> a quiet training yard, for example, only to have the dog 'forget' it all
> when he's in hot pursuit of a cat headed toward a busy highway.
>
> It is for this reason I also view such things as monastic or sanctuary
> settings for much spiritual work, seems to me kinda like learning to
> drive a car in the saftey of a garage. If you never take it out into
> traffic on the road, what's the point?
> Jenell
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