To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/11/15 07:25
Subject: Re: [K-list] Shaktipat?
From: Adele Chatelain
On 1999/11/15 07:25, Adele Chatelain posted thus to the K-list:
ahhhhhh. Well, I was just 'talking' as they say. Not
replying to what you said. I was simply thinking about
the problem in general.
Adele
Jenell wrote:
>
> I'm not trying to 'label', or claim 'label' to anything, so much as
> trying to understand what such terms mean, and how any of it relates to
> my own experiences. Trying to understand what the heck is going on with
> me in a lot of ways. I really about as far from a power tripper or ego
> inflation seeker as it gets, as the person I am. But these things are
> happening to me, I want to try to understand them AND, if through this,
> I AM 'affecting' (infecting?) other people, with/or without conscious
> intent to do so, I most surely need to know that, and how to handle it.
> I also feel, always have, very strongly about anyone 'imposing' anything
> upon others without their informed consent, or against their own will
> and choice.
>
> Jenell
>
> As to keeping the 'extraordinary' aspects quiet, hey, it doesn't take
> many encounters over this with 'normal' people to teach you the wisdom
> that THAT, real fast!
>
> Adele Chatelain wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> > I think one must be very careful in labeling oneself as
> > 'guru' or anything else.
> > From my readings of mystics, the stance seems to be
> > Humility Always!; one negates being elevated to any
> > position, because
> > one never knows this gift was sent by the Devil in order
> > to distract from the Goal, which is transcendence
> > (compassion). (after all,
> > there such a temptation to become conceited (ego inflation)
> > if one considers oneself to being 'special'). If nothing
> > else, one becomes entangled in definitions of terms (Guru,
> > Teacher, etc)...and to many Saints this entanglement is
> > exactly what the Devil desires because of its powerful
> > distraction from the Goal.
> > I think of St. Teresa of Avila who once said, 'when you
> > see visions of Jesus or hear His voice...it's time to wash
> > the floors!"
> > There are many such quotes in Buddhism, too.
> > There have been many Christian people who have received
> > the Stigmata, for example and in every case that I know of,
> > they have keep it to themselves as long as they possibly
> > could,
> > for fear of this inflation.
> >
> > Hugs,
> > Adele
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