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Recieved: 1999/11/15 05:42
Subject: Humility (was Re: [K-list] Shaktipat?
From: Ville Vainio


On 1999/11/15 05:42, Ville Vainio posted thus to the K-list:

On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Adele Chatelain wrote:

> I think of St. Teresa of Avila who once said, 'when you
> see visions of Jesus or hear His voice...it's time to wash
> the floors!"

> There are many such quotes in Buddhism, too.

My favourite:

"When you see Buddha on the road, kill him."

And as for killing, another funny quote (probably meant to get rid of
various preconceptions about mysticism), this time by Crowley:

"If barking of a dog is disturbing your meditation, kill the dog and
resume your meditation" (Book 4).

As far as Gurus are concerned, anyone can call themselves gurus if they
feel like it. Strictly speaking, guru means "teacher", but I could as well
call myself a chiropractitioner (not an official professional title) even
though if had never *seen* a human back. When a spiritual system becomes a
religion and starts to officially divide people to various levels of
attainment/enlightenment, it might as well call it quits since it has
strayed away from the dharma. Buddhism is famous for having lots of tables
and lists, but I see it's because they were easier to memorize (when paper
was scarce/unexistent)... and none of it is "official". Zen has also
fouled up pretty badly in creating a system where people are "authorized"
to mediate Zen.

Ville Vainio - vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi http://www.tp.spt.fi/~vvainio
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