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Recieved: 1999/11/14 22:03
Subject: Re: [K-list] Need help opening the 3rd & 5th chakras
From: Jenell


On 1999/11/14 22:03, Jenell posted thus to the K-list:

Perhaps the most frequent 'reason' for difficulty in our being able to
'speak truth as we see it' lies in conflict within one's own view of
that truth. Our consciousness may or may not be 'aware' of that conflict
to some degree, but our inner being, our subconscious, KNOWS it's there.
I think we ALL have such internal conflict in how we 'see truth', to
some extent, and it's a major issue that k works on to clear. Such
conflicts exist when we hold some conflicting, incompatable 'beleifs'
within our beleif system. Teh mental ego finds all sorts of clever and
resourcful ways to try to keep us from resolving them bringing them up
side by side to compare, confront the inconsistencies, the
incompatabilities. I have found that to be a major facotr in my own
transformational process, I beleive it was a major factor in triggering
my 'transformational crisis' event. I am a very 'open' person as to
being able to express myself and my ideas, yet I had the most
discomforting occasions arise when I suddenly found myself totalt,
competlely, unable to even SPEAK, during some of this work. I woul;d try
to say something (related to the issues being processed) and my throat
would literally constrict, or the words would just vanish from my mind.
I had reached the point that I would not longer 'accept' letting myself
speak something I knew at a deeper level was not as true as my outer
consciousness had thought it was.

It goes something like this: We on the one hand would want to declare
'this truth', yet within us, is something that conflicts with, 'yes,
BUT...' Those, if THIS is true, then THAT cannot also be true, BUT, I
know THAI is true. BUT, I LIKE THIS truth, WANT THIS truth, BUT....I
also cannot deny THAT truth, with affects THIS truth.....etc.

Jenell

winter mute wrote:
>
> On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:40:50 Jon-Carl Lewis wrote:
> >Hello folks, This is Jon-Carl
>
> Hello Jon-Carl !
>
> Nice to meet you. :)
>
> I think so far you're the only African_American
> on the list.
>
> Or at least the only one who has spoken up. :)
>
> I hope you will develop your attraction to
> your ancient and honorable spiritual heritage.
> :))
>
> >I almost feel like there is a demon pressing down on >me, forcing me to feel sad or guilty when I tell my >truth.
> >
> >Or perhaps this is just my body's repressing this >action becaseu of consequences of telling my truth and >being my self in the past.
> >
> >Therapy is helping, but I am starting to see this not >as a cognitive issue but a spiritual issue.
>
> :) Many issues are spiritual but on the surface
> may seem like a cognitive or psychological.
>
> Issues of the 3rd and 5th chakra are about such
> things and about speaking the truth as one sees
> it. :)
>
> >Can anyone suggest any essential essences (I respond >well to aromatherapy) or moving meditations to help me >open the solar plexus and the throat chakras.
>
> Wim Borsboom on this list
> wrote a long mail about 4 weeks
> ago about his experiences with the 5th chakra.
> Check the archives and you may come across it.
> There aren't that many posts with his name on it
> in the archives, so keep looking. :)
>
> Among one of the nice things ;)
> he recommended for the 5th was a sensualization
> of the 5th through tongue kissing. :)
>
> The 5th and 3rd may very well be connected, as
> "speaking one's truth" is very much connected to the
> ego and the feelings belonging to the ego,
> which are elements belonging to the 3rd chakra
> domain.
>
> As so many posts on this list have been about
> recently, speaking one's own truth in the
> face of others' often strong and unyelding
> egos can be very difficult indeed.
> And verbal battles always come down to one ego
> against another ego.
> But that is another subject. :)
>
> For working with he 3rd chakra, many ppl on this
> list have been helped by a book called
> "Kundalini and the Chakras" by Paulson.
> It is carried by Amazon.com and costs about
> 5 bucks.
>
> The book also gives very apt descriptions of the
> domains of the other chakras.
>
> It contains some movement meditations
> combined with visualizations that do work for many
> ppl.
>
> My personal experience wth the 3rd and 5th was that
> they were definitely connected, both in a positive
> and negative way.
> When you speak your truth, as you see it, it
> will start to resolve the 3rd chakra issues as
> well.
> Just remember: anger leads to more anger... :)
>
> I have / had problems with the 3rd also,
> but they have been resolved over time,
> slowly but surely. There is not half of
> what used to be in there, really stuck,
> the better part of one war, three years of
> front service.
>
> So my only advice to you is to be patient
> and do as they say in the song:
> cry when you want to. :)
>
> It may feel like hell now, but you will come
> out on the other side. :)
>
> >I appreciate your collective presence in my life and have been very healed and moved to tears of joy by the >postings on this list.
>
> Now /that/ is flattering for all the posters on
> this list. :))
>
> Thank you. :)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Amanda.
>
> Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com

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