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Recieved: 1999/11/10 08:23
Subject: Re: [K-list] Black magic and misuse of Power?
From: Jon-Carl Lewis


On 1999/11/10 08:23, Jon-Carl Lewis posted thus to the K-list:

Blessings to you, Angelique.

Blessings and the strengths of all the forces of your paradigm.

I get more out of your grounded postings than all of the philosophical what if what if what if stuff that leaves me with nothing but a headache.

Thanks for your paradigm. I have learned from it as I have from all other grounded paradigms.

My deep and humble thanks.

And perhaps the shit that we eat from other's misunderstandings and projections is our shit eating ritual. Sometimes I'd rather eat actual shit!

Have fun writing your course -- do we all get to test run it?

Jon-Carl

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On 11/10/1999 at 1:09 AM Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:

>At 05:40 AM 11/9/99 , CKRESSATnospamaol.com wrote:
>>I've been too immersed in other concerns to read much from the list for
>>awhile, but I did tune in when I noticed the long post from Angelique. As
>>much as I have an affectionate regard for her, I can't go along with much of
>>her metaphysical/map of reality.
> Sorry, El.. but who said it was my map? I am not attached to it.
> Martin asked what was up with the idea that the vibe is rising and the
>Eden doorway, so I outlined the paradigms suggested by folks (lightworkers,
>yes I am one sometimes when Goddess calls on me to be that..) working with
>that particular reality map, with references to my sources so he could do
>more research on his own.
> His question was pretty specific about what paradigms he wanted more
>information on, and since no-one else had responded to him to answer his
>question, I did. I thought I made it very clear that I was expressing
>current paradigms held by the individuals who speak about this stuff,
>telling him that what it means depends on who you talk to.
> I thought I made it clear that I don't have too many opinions of my own
>about it, and have not come to any firm conclusions. I said at the bottom
>of the post, "I dunno".
> Don't shoot the messenger!
>
> I have spoken at other times of the inevitability of war, as part of the
>natural selection of Nature, and of how awakened people are not "better"
>than unawakened folks who chose to play the game with no "time-outs" for
>miracles.
> Please consider, whether your expressed spiritual superiorty over so
>called "Lightworkers" is not an us-and-them superior attitude of your own.
>I did not express the idea of superiority in my post, I suggested the idea
>of differences. Different beliefs creating different realities.
>
> I really don't have too many paradigms of my own. When I write to the
>list, usually I am channeling a response from the unconscious of the person
>I am writing to, and I adapt to thier paradigms. It means I may appear to
>contradict myself quite a lot, but I don't care. Any human idea of "truth"
>cannot express what is infinite, so it just doesn't matter. Truth apprears
>to me, to be a variable that is a subjective experience depending on your
>reality tunnel.
>
> In my present realty, aside from being invisible some of the time, I
>seem to be getting attacked when I post to K-list, these days, and I'm
>getting really tired of it, especially as it is right in the list
>guidelines, to be respectful of the beliefs of other cultures... even if
>they think eating goat shit is sacred.
>
> In my experience, if you want to be a healer, be prepared to eat shit. A
>friend found a description of me, in a book of Mexican Witches. Pale skin,
>nocturnal, skinny, big eyes, hermit.. the whole deal. This kind of Witch
>was called "eater of filth", because they suck sickness out of people. Shit
>Eater.. that's what a healer is. That's what I am, and that's what people
>give me.. thier Karma shit. Pretty glamorous, eh? LOL!!
>
> Good that the Africans put it right into the ritual, so anybody who
>wants to be a healer so they can get respect and approval, and feel
>superior while playing "hero" gets weeded out right away. Better than
>here, where they give them a Phd. to put on the wall and don't care if the
>healers are only after the money and prestige.
>
> You don't like the term "Lightworker", do you feel better if we call
>ourselves "Shit eaters" so you can feel superior? Or would that be
>attention-getting false humility, with a generous dose of martyrdom? If
>you want to judge it, you can always find a reason.
>
> Sorry, El.. I don't mean to aim all my bitching at you. I'm just getting
>really tired of this shit, I'm getting shit eater's bulimia where I try to
>eat it and just end up barfing it back in the direction it started from,
>smelling worse than it did the first time. Maybe I should take a clue from
>the goat shit ritual: that's what is supposed to happen.
>
> ooo.. giggles and tears after I wrote that, sign of Truth in my reality
>tunnel..
>
> Good thing too coz I've been under psychic attack from one of my
>ex-slaves for the better part of a week, coz I opened the shielding to
>check if I had anything to forgive her for, and ended up getting 8 months
>backlog of her obsession with me. I couldn't figger out where it was coming
>from, at first. I released her because she could not give up her tendency
>to misusing her power for black magic manipulations, and shielded myself,
>but I didn't have the heart, to reflect it back to her.
> I guess I need to barf it back to her, it's wiping me out.
>
> I'm gonna go back to lurking, now, and working on writing the on-line
>course that I hope will raise money for a Kundalini Sanctuary, Seems like
>a better use of my time, than posting to the list, these days...
>
>Enjoy the list, it's here for you. Blessings..

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