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Recieved: 1999/11/04 14:04
Subject: Re: "Moulding" of the brain, meditation, Chaos (was Re: [K-list
From: Jenell


On 1999/11/04 14:04, Jenell posted thus to the K-list:

I have come to understadn this 'series' of experiences, not as the 'k'
realy being inactive in the periods between, but of there being a need
for the organism (us) to make internal adjustments, integreate and
internal what was gained in each 'event', so as to prepare us for the
next stage of development, the next 'event'. As if it takes some tme
after each to assimlate, process, integrate, the latest 'download' of
new data, before we are ready to run the next program in the process. I
know I've continued to grow and evolve considerably between 'events',
and some of that I've been given in these latest ones, I couldn't have
handled at all, simply had not the foundation for them, in my earlier
years of life. What has come before is needed to prepare for what will
come later. A 'building' process, that cannot be done all at once, or
out of proper order. You can't put the roof on until you've build the
house, and you can't build the house until you've laid the foundation,
and you can't lay the foundation until you've cleared the ground, etc.
Then, lay that over the concet that we aren't building from scratch, but
from an already existing house, are building a new and imprved model,
and that requires dismantling the old as prelude to building the new.
And since 'we' (real self) has to have some place to lve in the process,
we don't just move out of the old and into the new, it must be done in a
gradual multi stage process, carefully removing a piece of the old,
replacing it with a new building block. A process of transformation,
rather than just tear one down and build another.
Jenell
Jenell
Jenell

Ville Vainio wrote:
>
> On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 DruoutATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> > It's interesting that there can be a long time between profound experiences.
> >
> > It seems that Gopi Krishna also experienced this time lapse.
>
> It is quite weird, considering that k is thought to be a transformative
> process that applies a pressure on the brain/thought patterns until they
> bend, assuming a state more receptive to awareness. Perhaps the profound
> experiences are just erratic electric storms that occur when the k-process
> accidentally touches a switch it was supposed to leave untouched? Or a
> result of dramatic change in the brain activity, a chain reaction caused
> by a dramatic alteration of the everyday function of some area of brain...
> when some neurons finally find their way to that area. Like a dam
> collapsing.
>
> BTW, having experimented with forceful meditation technique
> (focusing, the one described on my page) recently, it seems that also the
> meditative experiences seem to be results of resistance from some part of
> the brain. My initial experiences were stronger, nowadays I just sit there
> meditating, and start developing obvious signs of meditative trance
> (trembling, heat) much later on into the meditation.
>
> Also, I have noticed that the object of meditation has potential to become
> a some sort of object of reverence. In my case, since I meditated on the
> flame of a candle, I noticed that when I was feeling "fragmented" I just
> reminded myself of the steadily burning flame, and felt centered (and
> blissfull) again. The thought of the flame seems to trigger my pleasure
> centers. This seems to be a powerful thing, with potential to be
> abused (cults etc.).
>
> Ville Vainio - vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi http://www.tp.spt.fi/~vvainio
> We're all puppets
> The first step on the path to understanding is seeing the strings

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