To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/09/14 22:54
Subject: Re: [K-list] Drugs vs. Breath??
From: Roger Bose
On 1999/09/14 22:54, Roger Bose posted thus to the K-list:
>From: PokimontazATnospamaol.com
>Reply-To: PokimontazATnospamaol.com
>To: MrsToastATnospamaol.com, KundaliniATnospamlist-server.net
>Subject: Re: [K-list] Drugs vs. Breath??
>Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 01:16:56 EDT
>
><< Conscious breath control vary rarely leads to vomiting, ER visits, or
> permanent psychoses as often as psychedelic drugs. Alas, conscious
>breath
> control doesn't seem to enjoy the reputation for absurd hilarity either.
>:)
> >>
>
>But can't the permanent psychosis be attributed more to the individual's
>inability to "handle" what is perceived in the psychedelic experience than
>the actual drug? I once knew a person (no the person is NOT myself here
>people) that while on a recreational LSD trip believed that the Mario
>Brothers were chasing after him. Obviously this is a hallucination
>brought
>on by the drug....but the mind has to be prepared to deal with such
>situations as manifested from our imaginations. If a person is
>ill-prepared
>to deal with this situation a pychoses may result which centers itself on
>being followed or chased.
Perhaps a past life or a trauma early in life? Who knows? But I dont't think
we should trivially dismiss episodes such as this. On the surface it may
look and sound funny (I could't help but laugh) but maybe their's more to
it. That's why I advocate sensible use of enthogens, if they were legal
perhaps we would see more psycotherapists (kind of a modern day shaman)
oversee or guide such events, and come to a healing. We need to free up
research in this area.
<http://www.maps.org>
If the person can handle the fact that this is a
>figment of his imagination and can handle the situation as such then no
>problem should follow. It's FAKE..the drug made them come...use the drug
>to
>make them LEAVE! If a person has a strong mind then nothing should sway
>them
>otherwise?
An already fragile state of minds is not going to strengthen by
>altering states...its like adding fuel to a fire and givig it reason to
>break
>completely...at least IMO.
I AGREE.
>
>LyN
>
>
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