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Recieved: 1999/09/08 14:47
Subject: [K-list] Re: Orgasm, orgasm, all night long
From: traveler


On 1999/09/08 14:47, traveler posted thus to the K-list:

>What's the advantage of orgasm-control over, say, meditation? Meditation
>is dead easy and loads of fun, while riding the wave of orgasm seems
>difficult and not as fun, IMHO.

Osho says, there are two doors to Nirvana: one through meditation and one through orgasm. I don't think it matters which door one chooses..... personally, I have a hard time with meditating.....and, for me, going into orgasmic states is very fun, healing, dynamic, exciting, etc....plus pays a great spiritual dividend. It's just the door I have chosen, for whatever reason.

Now also maybe my k and your k expressed themselves differently, yours had more of a meditation flavor, mine was quite orgasmic. This is how I feel I return to the k energy so easily. I don't know, but I would love to hear from others.....I have heard there is quite a variety of experiences.

What does this prolonged orgasm do to you
>if you are k active as compared to a person who is not k active?

There are many physical and psychic health benefits to entering orgasmic states for everyone. It enables lucid thinking, integration, stress release, circulation of ki, access to spiritual energies, etc. This applies to all.

I'd encourage anyone, k active or not, to explore their sexual energies if so inclined, to see how they might harness them to attain higher states of awareness, and the other benefits so mentioned. They are quite amazing. I believe that we are born in a state of orgasm, this is our birthright, and something to claim and celebrate, the way we would our gender, our race, our spirit, etc.

I think being k-active and then also capable of being quite orgasmic keeps me remembering the greatest single experience of my lifetime. I really love the k for giving me a new life, and this love is profound....it is like the love of life itself.

>> To me there is only one "light", higher consciousness, etc. to go into, no
>> matter what path one takes to get there.
>
>There are infinite number of states of heightened consciousnessess, as
>well as different ecstatic experiences. There is only one Reality,
>however.

Yes, this is just my worldview. One Reality. Of course, the one reality can hold many infinite "realities" or universes within it.....in my particular experience. When I access this other realm where consciousness is primary I see and experience many other realms. All within the one overriding reality. Kind of the dimension that exists beyond space and time and all our limited faculties of perception. All knowing, loving, being, etc.

>> mind/body/time/space. I experiment often with altered states of mind
>> available during this experience. I think that it is a powerful way to
>> bring the k energy into daily life. (I don't meditate though I am sure that
>
>What's the "daily life"? If you are talking about work, trying to find a
>way to keep the k OUT of it would seem more beneficial :-).

My k has gotten progressively quieter in the last few years and I am actually grateful about this, so I see your point. I don't know if I would sign up on the dotted line for another awakening right now if given the choice. But.....okay, I would, I would, despite the enormous cost. Actually I am very attracted to the post of the kinder, gentler k of the sahaja....thanks to whomever posted that experience.

I suppose depending on the degree of k activity in my life, I would choose appropriate work....

Actually, I have been thinking about getting shaktipat.....again.....but am a little too scared! But I long for the intense sense of love it put into me...maybe it is worth it. Would also like to know if others have had a second shaktipat that was powerful...different or the same?

Good questions :-)
Patti

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