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Recieved: 1999/08/03 05:36
Subject: Re: [K-list] Transmission
From: David Bozzi


On 1999/08/03 05:36, David Bozzi posted thus to the K-list:

"A. Erhart" wrote:

> David Bozzi wrote:
>
> >Ahh... but the the realm of the 'highly voluntarily' is the realm of the conscious.
> >We forget that we are largely governed by the unconscious.
>
> Yes, that is true. :) I'm glad you reminded me of
> that, David. I am in a situation where I needed that
> reminder.
>
> >What we are conscious of, is but a blip on the map.
> >
> >The effect we have on each other is beyond our knowing,
> >and far greater than we'd imagine.
>
> Do you mean through giving each other emotional
> support, to show other ppl by example (which is one
> of the strongest ways of influencing ppl) or
> by words and arguments ?

Either I can try to affect you for my own personal needs
or I can allow spirit to flow through me and let happens happen.

The form in which either of these occurs can take any form.
Showing emotional support could be harmful or productive
or neither or both as with arguing.

The issue is does one allowing spirit to manifest through oneself
or is one operating from fear-based personal will.

This requires immense honesty and surrender.

> The reason I ask is that
> I have in the past,
> via my little grasping and averting ego, found
> that it is near impossible to use logic and arguments
> to make other ppl see one's views if they on beforehand
> have set opposing views. I thus have given up
> trying to convince anybody. :)

The issue here is your 'little grasping and averting ego'.

> >Thank god it's not something that's required of us to know.
>
> Yes, the full effect of our words and actions remain
> unknown to us,

Yes, the words, the actions, and the energy that flows.

> otherwise I suppose we could be more
> restrained in what we say and do. :)

Sometimes it's appropriate to be restrained and other times not so restrained.
If my brother is a heavy sleeper in a burning building,
well this is not a good time for restraint.

David
(restrained/unrestrained)

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