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>Subject: RE: [K-list] David Bozzni and LeTeege and Christopher Columbus
>Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:11:42 -0500
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>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:owner-kundaliniATnospamList-Server.net] On Behalf Of David Bozzi
>Sent: Sunday, July 25, 1999 1:33 PM
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>Subject: Re: [K-list] Yoga and stuff
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>LeTeegeeATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
>> I feel that those that go against *warnings* and follow their
>> heart instead of others fears, are the pioneers of this world... the
>> Christopher Columbus's that open themselves up to a whole new world.
>They
>> have faith in their heart, which is love... and giving faith to love, who
>can
>> but win?
>
>I agree. 'Cept in referring to Christopher Columbus you've also illuminated
>the dark
>side.
>
>Hi David! Intererting point, and yes, the dark side is brought out here
>too....but do not we all go through darkness to get to light? Does this
>mean the original intent wasn't motivated by sincere belief of more being
>possible? Can anyone really know his (christopher columbus') motives?
>Perhaps his sheer singularity of focus (albeit at all cost) appears to be
>ugly and foul......but do we really know that? I am a true believer in not
>judging the heart of another, regardless of external actions and
>appearances. To me, this doesn't solve anything or perpetuate
>love....although I do not condone his methods, I cannot judge his intentions
>or where his heart was. I too have done disruptive things that I believed
>firmly at the time to be the most loving action. Through this I have
>learned. I've made so many mistakes myself that it is difficult for me to
>condemn the motives of another just based on outward appearances or results.
>If one truly desires the greatest love, I think one would gradually grow in
>self awareness and learn that it is not just loving that is important, but
>learning to love wisely. Loving comes naturally to me. Learning to love
>wisely has been a painful ongoing lesson, but one I am greatful of.
>
>I believe the point LeTeege was making an analogy that was valid...even
>though it did illuminate the dark side...but only through bringing the
>darkness into the light (or by seeing the light within the
>darkness...dangerous ground here I'm getting into, but oh well...) can the
>wholeness begin.
>
>
>David Bozzi stated:
>
>Chris was motivated by greed & thirst for recognition. He cut off the noses
>& ears of sailors who disobeyed him & enslaved Indians to find gold for him.
>Those that
>escaped but were later captured were fed to the dogs. One prominent Yale
>professor who
>extensively researched Chris came to the conclusion that to honor Columbus
>on 'Columbus
>Day' was to honor racism.
>
>Stephanie again:
>
>Yes, I see your point, but I cannot see that this is the whole story. I'm
>uncomfortable with Christopher Columbus day myself....very uncomfortable.
>But when I was at the University of Toronto in grad school I lived in
>married family housing for international students. Everyone was from
>different religions and cultures. I was struck by the irony that at
>"Christmas time," every religion besides Christian or even western culture's
>"holy days" was allowed to set up a booth. That too is cultural and
>religious racism. I understand past "Christian crimes," but you cannot
>judge every westerner or every Christian on the basis of everyone who
>misunderstood what Christ had to say. I have many Moslem friends, and it
>hurts me that the wealth of beauty in Islamic culture is tainted by the
>extremists who dominate the media and condemn whole populations of people
>who have nothing to do with such beliefs.
>
>I apologize for the soap box. I just had to give another perspective.
>
>Thank you for sharing and forgive any unintended offense I may have caused.
>I can be passionate but not always eloquent. I admit that this issue is
>emotionally charged for me, so my reply definitely could have been better
>stated if I myself were further along on this path.
>
>Peace be with you all,
>
>Stephanie
>
>StephpATnospamflash.net
>
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