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Recieved: 1999/07/01 15:55
Subject: [K-list] Drowning / Froggy Jacques Cousteau OFF TOPIC
From: A. Erhart


On 1999/07/01 15:55, A. Erhart posted thus to the K-list:

 
Dear Jacques,

On Thu, 01 Jul 1999 08:22:45 Jacques de Schryver wrote:

>Here is a story for those afraid of what I do.

Hey, that's a nice title for a poem. ;)

>By that time, I learned to drown, so that I should
>know precisely what to do if it should happen.
>
>So I went through a first serie of spasms, starting
>lungs empty, in a swimming pool, near the ladder.

You mean the spasms that appear when the body insists
on drawing a breath, even under water ?

>The first serie of spasms is hard to bear. You
>are just choking. Then it goes through a remission
>for about 12 seconds I should say. Then a second
>serie of spasm. Difficult to think when it happens.

I can believe that. I have read descriptions from
recovered ppl and the process of drowning and the
burning from lack of oxygen sounds like one of the
absolute worst ways of kicking it.

>But the second remission gives you a very clear
>mind, just as the first.
>
>Then the third serie of spasms. No one among
>us could ever pass it.

Did you ?

>This training once saved my life. And this is why,
>if I strive to 'let go', I have anyway a method
>(at least tentatively) to work on Kundalini raising.

You are a brave man.

>The problem of the guru is that I didn't find one.

You have one inside you, your higher self.

>Perhaps one of these days, I'll write down for you my
>drowning
>experience in a cave, since it is related to a near
>death experience that I had while fighting in a narrow
>path underwater. It had partly collapsed, at the very moment
>I found my scuba didn't let me breath any more.

Sounds very dramatic and not a little claustrophobia
inducing. I'd like to read it as I have claustrophobia
and need to get rid of it.

>(Plongeurs International).

Plongeur ? Is that the French word for Diver ?

>By now I have been using the electric stim for 5 hours a
>day since I received it at the end of last week. It has
>notably
>increased the feeling of my lower back.

Hey, don't burn your kidneys up, will ya ? ;)

>I am interested in discrepancies in our opinion.
>
>So we will see if Froggy Jack will be Boiling Jack.

LOL !

It is all up to Goddess. :)

I'm starting my own little sensory deprivation
experiment this weekend. I'll try to sit in
absolute darkness for as long as I can and just
be in the moment there.

Very creepy and very interesting to hear about
your wilful drowning experiences. I used to do
free diving and know the gagging spasms when you
start to get empty for air.

Best regards,

Amanda.

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