To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/05/14 05:13
Subject: Re: [K-list] Reiki and Kundalini, debate
From: Chris Hughes
On 1999/05/14 05:13, Chris Hughes posted thus to the K-list:
The message <MIJMNBHCKFMLGAAAATnospamangelfire.com>
from "Amanda Erhart" <mumblecatATnospamangelfire.com> contains these words:
> On Fri, 14 May 1999 11:18:06 Chris Hughes wrote:
> >Our debates ( every list conversation) from my point of view are
> >educational but open to miss- understanding because we are not face
> >to face so most of the subelties (Dyslexic attack)which make up
> >language are lost, so such communications aer wide open to
> >miss-understanding.
> Chris,
> was it you who said that even 80% of written
> communication is conveyed by assumption in the
> reader / recipient of the message in the Satsangh ?
I said somthing similar ie up to 80% of comunication is nonverbal.
smile tone of voice the phrasing body posture movment eye contact etc.
> I found that very intriguing and I can clearly see
> your point.
> The forum of online debate is not the best as it does
> not allow for face to face communication and body
> language, which makes up a lot of communication as
> well. :)
> >So from my point of veiw the content of the conversations in a
> >spritual list matter not one whit and in fact I am sure that God
> >smiles at our child like atempts to explain Him/Her with the sure
> >knowledge that our point of view is the correct one.
> :) Nice idea.
> >Yet what I believed yesterday is not necessarilly what I believe
> >today so I no longer feel that I have to defend my ego.
> >I am also aware that every bit of knowledge I have was allready in
> >existence before my birth, it came through other people, books, with
> >a little intuiting of my own but even then I only discovered what was
> >there allready.
> That is true ! :)
> Makes you think whether man has changed anything over
> the last 10 000 years. In some ways not. :)
> I suspect we use thought modes that were around 25 000
> years ago.
> >What does matter is "intention"
> >My intention is to love others unconditionally to the >best of my ability
> Chris, I think this is an incredibly valid and
> humble intention and even better of you to state
> online. :)
> Thanks for the reminder. :)
> >> Also, if they are the same, then there is no need to make any difference
> >> between Reiki and Kundalini.
I cant say for sure Amanda.
> I must admit I have been curious about the answers
> to these questions myself.
> >most
> >definately since being atuned in Reiki the chanel up my spine is more
> >open and the movement that I physically feel of Kundalini is much
> >stronger.
> Do you feel K move when you use Reiki to heal ppl ?
Yes
> Does it feel like the same ?
Yes
> (These are just questions born out of a curious ego,
> they're not meant as rhetorical questions to argue)
> >Once Kundalini is awakened you have very little free choice.
> >Kundalini is in charge of your life You are in the taxi home being
> >driven by Kundalini Shakti. So now I believe that everything else is
> >almost immaterial.
> Did Reiki cause K awakening for you or was it the
> other way around, you started with Reiki because
> K was present ?
Kundalini was awakened in me by the late Guruji and through a series
of coincidences I felt a strong desire to be atuned for Reiki
> >If we were to have a "debate" you might well win through superior
> >logic intelligence etc but the bottom line is all you have won is the
> >debate it does not guarantee that you are right or I >wrong.
> Shall we debate on that ? ;)
Debates are fun but not to be taken personally "win or loose"
What is there to win or loose who is it that wins/looses appologies to Hasha.
"When you have God you have everything" quote either from Sai Baba or Yogananda
> I suppose someone already did a long and learned
> debate about that in one of the debating socities
> or rhetoric clubs in ancient Greece... ;)
Oh no doubt.
> Best regards,
> Amanda.
And to you
Chris
Sai Ram
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