To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/04/29 14:51
Subject: [K-list] Re: Karma/Astro (domchi)
From: Rik Wallace
On 1999/04/29 14:51, Rik Wallace posted thus to the K-list:
--- Domagoj Klepac <Domagoj.KlepacATnospampublic.srce.hr> wrote:
> [regarding the point of astrology...] what I actually would
> like to know is how do I react, what's wrong with me, not how
> others influence me.
Hmm... For me, 'how I react' tends to be the same as
'how others influence me' and 'what's wrong with me'.
Clever paradox you present.
> I want to be active, change myself, I
> don't want to look others; others come and go, I stay.
I like this perspective of 'staying' while everything
moves, without 'others'.
> When I observe my development, my growth, I see that it comes
> in cycles. First I look around me and I say "OK, nice, now I
> know different things, but those different things don't mean
> much to me - I know everything about them, I may use them if I
> need to, but I don't want to spend my life repeating those
> things over and over. What's next?".
In my experience...the same 'thing' repeated over and over. :)
But I see how being open to new interpretations could allow
you
to 'stay' and repeat the same thing over and over without
getting bored.
> Then I learn something new - and I'm not talking about
> "memorizing some new facts", I'm talking about something what
> would be best described as spreading of consciusness.
> And then again I feel an urge to go on.
I get it. It's all very simple and clear now.
But I sure miss the clutter.
:)
> > And, if you know the next step, how does one do that?
>
> I don't know. I don't worry too much about next step, I focus
> on current step.
Tell me again... what is a 'step'?
Is it what I just tripped on?
> I know that at first I had to solve many things about myself -
> which came mostly with some energetic cleanings.
Oh, is that like the monks who say, "If you want to know
the meaning of life, first rake the yard".
> Then came something different, going through different
> experiences. It seems that I've gone through everything people
> usually experience in their lives; [snip....]
>
> What's next? I really don't know.
A book? A movie? Nobel Prize? Devotional web site?
> I'm interested in anything that could be a tool to that. Such
> understanding comes with time, I think Kundalini forces you to
> try to understand yourself, [...]
Hmm... For me, 'how I react' (to k) tends to be the same as
'how others (like k) influence me' and 'what's wrong with me'.
I resist the temptation to count the ways...
> If astrology is tool which I could use, fine, I'll go and use
> it, if not, than it's useless to me.
Many believe astrology is of and about the 'Self'.
However you may be correct, at least for me, that as
a tool, I am useless.
(I'm much more useful as a problem.)
> when somebody needs you, you're there, you simply know what's
> the problem and how to fix it or how to help him fix it. There
> are no books with rules how to do that.
You obviously shop in a different bookstore. ;)
But yeah, as for tools for fixing problems, I'll admit
to being a free-loader. I've never met a person who
came to me with a problem who didn't bring the right 'tool'.
Here's to home improvement, Domchi... cheers Rik
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