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Recieved: 1999/04/26  08:13  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Karma & Astrology 
From: Antoine
  
On 1999/04/26  08:13, Antoine posted thus to the K-list: 
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:01:56 +0200 
From: Domagoj.KlepacATnospampublic.srce.hr (Domagoj Klepac) 
Subject: Re: [K-list] Karma & Astrology
 
<< One thing I never understood is how planets have any influence on us? 
What is the connection? Also, what's the point of astrology? >>
 
I'm far from a specialist in astrology, maybe the point is that there is 
no connection except that of an oracle.
 
from:  http://web.cln.com/archives/atlanta/newsstand/062996/E_PARA.HTM
 
"By "oracular knowing," I refer to knowledge gleaned from some kind of 
oracle -- a tool that stimulates the intuition rather than the intellect 
alone. The oracle does this usually through the production of images, 
translating the problem brought to it into a dream-like language of 
images that, when contemplated, help reveal the problem's meaning and 
resolution. Even the Greeks' oracle at Delphi was in the hands of 
priestesses who spoke in a wildly poetic, imagistic language."
 
"For Jung, the Tarot and I Ching were direct manifestations of 
synchronicity -- examples of how an inner condition can coincide with an 
outer condition even though there is no explainable, causal 
relationship. Thus, if the inner condition is not exactly understood, 
using the Tarot cards or throwing coins for an I Ching reading can 
supposedly direct one toward a better understanding of one's inner state 
and needs. (Jung in fact turned from astrology to these other oracles 
because he found it too causal in its assertion that planets exert a 
direct influence. In actuality, though, during the Renaissance there was 
an entirely separate school of astrology that was less literal.) "
 
"Such insight, (validating ones path) is common when the I Ching is 
consulted, especially during times when one feels lost or stuck or 
unduly anxious. What is required is a mind open to imagination. The I 
Ching's great practical value is that it requires no psychic or "reader" 
other than yourself. "
 
<< I tried to learn something about astrology, but I threw it all away 
when I found that it simply doesn't work for me - I have characteristics 
of all signs and planets. I thought that astrology may be a tool to find 
out something about somebody (or yourself), but to read something from 
natal chart, you have to have sight, and if you do have it, you don't 
really need planets and horoscopes... >>
 
Yes exactly Domchi, one could say that sight comes when ones sees an 
oracles in any form of manifestation so no system of thought is needed 
from that point to simply live experience.
 
It's always strange and beautiful to notice myself in a mirror, and they 
are so many unique and changing forms of mirrors...
 
Antoine
 
 
 
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