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Recieved: 1999/03/08 12:05
Subject: [K-list] Asking to be Abused?
From: Catherine Berger


On 1999/03/08 12:05, Catherine Berger posted thus to the K-list:

In a message dated 3/8/99 8:19:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
molecularbreezeATnospamsprynet.com writes:

<< How in the world does a woman ask to be abused? By trying to share
her
 feelings with you? By asking you to be open in sharing your thoughts
and
 plans with her? Ah, do these things make you feel tense and
inadequate?
 Thus, you think she knows exactly what she is doing, she is trying to
have
 power over you. Aha! And this must be stopped. She can't do that
to you.
 No one can do that to you. You are the one who must have the power
and you
 know how she want you to take it. Be sarcastic or yell put downs at
her or
 walk out. >>

Hi Connie,

I'm not sure who Charles Vermont is or what he said, but I'm glad to
see you are angry now, instead of dwelling on the pain of your broken
relationship. That was why I reminded you about the horrific abuse in
the Patti Hearst kidnapping. I wanted you to begin expressing what
you are feeling and move to the next stage of your healing.

However, the mystery of why God permits abuse is difficult to explain,
even if one does have some glimmer of understanding. Whose fault is
it, the abuser or the abused, seems to be what you are wrestling with.

It is more important to recognize that you do not have to permit
yourself to be a victim.

On a higher level, sadists believe they perform a service to those who
are masochists. The sadists are those who provide suffering to those
who believe suffering is a spiritual path. That is why only God's
perfect forgiveness can heal those who are too ignorant to know what
they are doing: both the sadists and the masochists. If you cannot
forgive yourself and your abuser, ask God to do it for you. This does
not mean either of you are spared the consequences of your actions, it
simply means you are free to move on.

You may not find the above an acceptable explanation of why abuse
occurs on this planet, but that is not important. What is important
is to declare you are finished being abused, sever all ties to the
abuser (which means you must forgive), and move on.

Cathy

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