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1998/09/27 12:04
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #687


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 687

Today's Topics:
  Re:dark man/unconscious mind [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamee.iisc.ernet.i ]
  Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ "cindy moore" <kaymoore68ATnospamhotmail.c ]
  Re: Re: The out-of-body deal. [ "Lucius" <dartanATnospamvoyager.net> ]
  Re: Related Lists and music [ "Lucius" <dartanATnospamvoyager.net> ]
  Re: Surrender key to empowerment [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
  Re: Surrender key to empowerment [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
  Re: Surrender key to empowerment [ "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.c ]
  Sinus Headaches [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
  Sinus Headaches [ Ananda <pippiATnospammetrolink.net> ]
  Re: Surrender key to empowerment [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
  Re: Sinus Headaches [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamee.iisc.ernet.i ]
  Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ Antoine <carreaATnospamvideotron.ca> ]
  Re: OBE [ "Evelyn Niedbalec" <log_me_inATnospamhotma ]
  Re: Re: The out-of-body deal. [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamee.iisc.ernet.i ]
  Re: Sinus Headaches [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
  Re: Re: Sinus Headaches [ YahseyesATnospamaol.com ]
  I am shameless [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
  Hi Everyone [ GISLENNEATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: Rik agrees Lobster looks more li [ Harsha <hlutharATnospambryant.edu> ]
  Shava Asana - Kundalini Shakti [ Harsha <hlutharATnospambryant.edu> ]
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:42:59 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: caroline wilson <myspecial1ATnospamyahoo.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re:dark man/unconscious mind
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At 09:57 PM 26/09/98 -0700, Caroline Wilson wrote:
>
>Dear Mystress Angelique,
>Mystress wrote:
>> You cannot get away from him in your dreams, because the man in your
>> dreams is a reflection of your own self.

>It feels like a coming of age thing like a certain process of
>initiation that needs to be addressed - into the acceptance of all of
>me.
>love bombing away
>Caroline
   Exactly so.. like my marriage to Hades.
>
>Ps what about the fact that my dark man in my dream was my now
>exboyfriend before i knew him? do you think i just unconciosly seeked
>him out and chose him? i guess so.
>
   Past and future are not real, to your unconscious. It gave you a
premonition of someone who would be important in your life, because they
would manifest this dark male mirror for you. You planned it before you
both were born. No accidents.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:21:44 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: CM Bailey <bluewater-architectsATnospamerols.com>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980927151625.20009D-100000ATnospamBhaskara>
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Astral projections r related to kundalini but i don't know if one can one
make a statement that if one is having astral projections than ones
kundalini is awakened.

love,
anurag
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 04:23:28 PDT
From: "cindy moore" <kaymoore68ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: bluewater-architectsATnospamerols.com, anuragATnospamee.iisc.ernet.in
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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To Anurag and list

Truly said, OBE's, telepathy, etc. are aspects, (related to chakras)
some people can have one or more chakras active and developed, but not
have a full kundalini awakening - all chakras working together and
understood by the individual.
Cindy

>Astral projections r related to kundalini but i don't know if one can
one
>make a statement that if one is having astral projections than ones
>kundalini is awakened.
>
>love,
>anurag
>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:42:41 -0400
From: "Lucius" <dartanATnospamvoyager.net>
To: "kundalini people" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>,
 "Evelyn Niedbalec" <log_me_inATnospamhotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re: The out-of-body deal.
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>Call it what you will. I was referring to an observation of mine that
>when one sees objects while OOB, it seems hard to comprehend the
>cultural significance of the objects. An example would be when I was
>OOB and observing the contents of my kitchen table. I wanted to take
>note of what was there so that I could check on it after I got back to
>body. I saw many objects but was thinking only of their colors, not
>what they were. FInally, I focused on a bright red roundish one and
>tried to name it. A concept of "toy thing" came to mind. WHen I got
>back to body, I thought of the object and realized that it was one of my
>dog's red rubber chew toys known as a "Kong." (and no, the stuff on my
>table was not equivilent to the stuff that was currently on the table).
>
hmm... in dream state, most people have trouble remembering mundane things.
could it be that the "kong" obe was actually a very lucid dream?
however, i think the astral mind is a little better organised than the
physical; you dont remember mundane things until you need to. while, like
you said, the physical mind tells us crap we dont need nor care about.

Lucius
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:47:18 -0400
From: "Lucius" <dartanATnospamvoyager.net>
To: "kundalini people" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>,
 "William Gant" <foehammer2ATnospamhotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Related Lists and music
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>This may be a dumb question, but are there any other lists similar to
>this one on the net?

does the pope wear a hat?
dont know an off the top of my head.

>Also, does music seem to help you meditate? I will be going to the Sound
>Shop in a couple of hours and I just wanted to know.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>William Gant
music helps me. but its one of those things completely different from person
to person; some people need absolute quiet, while others need music...
me i meditate to anything from rock&roll to new age to classical. for me it
provides distraction for my physical self as well as relaxation.

Lucius
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 08:41:47 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: YahseyesATnospamaol.com, kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Surrender key to empowerment
Message-ID: <360E4EA9.58BDD662ATnospamwtp.net>

YahseyesATnospamaol.com wrote:

> I have always felt that surrender is a form of cop out. That just giving up
> something and putting it into "God/ess'" hands was a form of not helping
> yourself handle something.

Surrender is a form of cop out...hmmm. I think that's true if you are talking
about surrendering to something/someone of the world. That reflects not taking
responsibility for your life. We've all felt like victims, but as we become more
aware and awakened, we can understand how we contributed to our ailments. We are
responsible. Our thoughts attract exactly what we get in our lives. So
ultimately, we can't blame anyone for the way things have turned out.

My bet is that most people who are spiritually aware don't really have this
issue. We have made it through being victimized by becoming the all-powerful
genies in our lives. We take control so others won't. It works better than being
a victim. To most people, we look like super-achievers. This is the mantra of the
business success motivational speakers. Brian Tracey: "You are responsible."
Stephen Covey: "Proactive people...work on the things they can do something
about."

I begin this phase of my life in 1990. It was a real awakening when I heard Brian
Tracey's tape saying that I was responsible for EVERYTHING that happened in my
life. Every time I begin to protest, I'd repeat, "I am responsible." I'd always
find it true.

Two years ago my life melted down. All the platitudes were true, but there was
another broader truth. I am the creator of my life on earth. But there's a
broader aspect of myself which isn't bound by the physical universe. My little
ideas as Nancy the genie seem brilliant from my perspective as a human. But in
the big picture, my plans can contradict other pursuits for which my soul longs.

When we only listen to our human whims, we shut out the voice of our soul. It's
the whisper that warns us that it's time to move on from a relationship. It's the
coincidence that has us at the right place for a job that's absolutely perfect
but we wouldn't have even considered. But we have our plans. I have such an
overdeveloped sense of will that I couldn't let my little ideas go. I had to be
completely humbled before I'd start listening to my soul.

> God/ess works in us, as us - how can we give up
> anything to something that is part of us?
>
You're right. It's all us, all one. Surrendering to God/dess is a way to tell
ourselves that we are more than our little selves and we give permission for that
wiser, all-encompassing universal force to be heard.

> God/ess receives joy when we
> sacrifice our efforts and their results to her but not our responsibility and
> challeange.

We can hang onto responsibility and challenge if we choose. But it's not
necessary. The thing about being human is that we catch glimpses that there's a
force beyond us. But most of us aren't able to maintain our awareness. This keeps
us interested in the game. We get the glimpse so we can be led back to God/dess.
We put awareness aside so we can live as humans.

> I really really want to surrender
> in honor to her if you see what I mean.
>
Surrendering in honor of God/dess is honoring her and you. You are allowing the
wiser part of yourself which is in communion with the divine to be heard.

That's my perspective anyway.

Nancy
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 08:38:57 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: Lobster <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com>, kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Surrender key to empowerment
Message-ID: <360E4E00.4409EAEEATnospamwtp.net>

Lobster wrote:

> so we strive for the
> unattainable and then . . .
> we get very attached to the result of having no results . . .

I think there's a difference between surrendering and becoming attached to the
result of no results. One means releasing control. The other is changing control.

Reminds me of losing weight. People who go on diets, change their emphasize of
food from over-indulgence to deprival. Still, the focus remains on food. When
I was a teen, I used to starve myself so I could obtain some outrageously low
"model" weight. I thought that my life would be miraculously transformed. I am
5'8" and at that time, I weighed 110. I had on my tightest jeans and was
riding my bike. I remember the thought through my head..."So what?" Nothing
had changed. Except I was always very hungry.

I quit dieting years ago and have maintained a "normal" weight. (Though
couldn't say for sure how much I weigh since I haven't been on a scale in
quite a while.) In January, I decided that I wanted to shape up. I
bolstered my exercise program, and I changed my diet to support my added
effort. I just eat more protein and less starchy stuff these days. I buy
wonderful fresh fruits and vegetables. I drink lots of water.

I also rarely crave sweets, pop or junk food anymore. As my body has become
more aware of what I'm ingesting, it's very unsatisfied with crap. I had a
McDonald's cheeseburger and fries a couple of weeks ago. It grossed me out.
Blech. Felt like my stomach was coated in grease. I can handle small
quantities, though if I do want to eat more junky food. About a month ago, I
wrote the list that after drinking four beers, I fainted the next day and
became very ill. So for now I've cut out alcohol, too. No big thing. I will
probably drink again in my life, but I have no need to do it on a regular
basis.

So that's the subtle difference I'm talking about, Lobster. There's refocusing
control to controlling our non-control...and there's surrendering. Maybe I'm
deluding myself, but I truly believe that I am learning to surrender.

Nancy
Date: 27 Sep 98 15:50:59 +0000
From: "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Surrender key to empowerment
Message-Id: <OUT-360E5EE3.MD-1.0.paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>

Nancy,

> Surrender is a form of cop out...hmmm. I think that's true if you are talking
> about surrendering to something/someone of the world. That reflects not taking
> responsibility for your life. We've all felt like victims, but as we become more
> aware and awakened, we can understand how we contributed to our ailments. We are
> responsible. Our thoughts attract exactly what we get in our lives. So
> ultimately, we can't blame anyone for the way things have turned out.

I'm not sure I can relate with this Nancy. Our thoughts may attract
what comes to our lives but when there is no thought there is no such
attraction, and then there is a world of consequence and coincidence
and chance, no fate. Maybe I just want to clarify that the opposite of
attracting bad things with thought is not attracting good things with
thought.

--
Paul.

IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 09:11:28 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Sinus Headaches
Message-ID: <360E559A.61E39181ATnospamwtp.net>
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I have had sinus headaches on again/off again for years. I am wondering
though what the cause of these could be from a spiritual/emotional
perspective. What issue am I clinging to that would cause headaches? Are
there any natural remedies I can use to support my healing as I address
my issue?

I had a crystal treatment yesterday and it really brought out this
headache full-force. Seems my body was suppressing its manifestation,
but it was there beneath the surface. I have eased the pain through OTC
sinus/cold meds but it's not a solution, just a short-term fix.

Any ideas appreciated.

Nancy
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:09:38 -0700
From: Ananda <pippiATnospammetrolink.net>
To: kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Sinus Headaches
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980927110938.007fe9c0ATnospampost.metrolink.net>
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Dear Love

Headaches are always a result of too many thoughts...as the pain and
pressure moves down towards the sinus' the repressed (unexpressed) thoughts
are starting to move down to the next chakra...communications...Writing is
always a way to release stuff that sits in the brain

I hope this makes sense and eases your pressure

I Love

In Devotion to Love
I AM
Ananda
ICQ#15294231

home page:
  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/2610/
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 09:21:18 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: Paul <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>,
 kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Surrender key to empowerment
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Paul wrote:

> > Our thoughts attract exactly what we get in our lives. So
> > ultimately, we can't blame anyone for the way things have turned out.
>
> I'm not sure I can relate with this Nancy. Our thoughts may attract
> what comes to our lives but when there is no thought there is no such
> attraction, and then there is a world of consequence and coincidence
> and chance, no fate.

First, I have never met anyone who does not have thoughts. (Maybe I live a sheltered
life?) Some thoughts we may be unconscious of, though.

I don't believe in "chance." We define those seemingly unbelievable experiences as
such. I see chance as our little selves getting out of the way of our soul's calling.
Perhaps that's what you mean by being thoughtless. There are some experiences I
wouldn't have consciously chosen for myself. When we can set aside our preset ideas
and expectations, that's when "chance" occurs. But it's really no coincidence. It's
the divine's pleasure to provide our soul's delight.

> Maybe I just want to clarify that the opposite of
> attracting bad things with thought is not attracting good things with
> thought.

Yes it is in the place of duality. Beyond duality, there is no "good" or "bad" thing.
There's just that which serves our soul. And you know what? All of it does...the
seemingly good, bad and ugly.

Nancy
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:21:15 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Ananda <pippiATnospammetrolink.net>
cc: kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Sinus Headaches
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980927211817.22853D-100000ATnospamBhaskara>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Yes , too much thoughts can certainly be one major cause. I have found
applying ice or putting my head under cold water to be helpful followed
by Shava Asana whenever i get stressed during meditation.

love,
anurag

On Sun, 27 Sep 1998, Ananda wrote:

> Dear Love
>
> Headaches are always a result of too many thoughts...as the pain and
> pressure moves down towards the sinus' the repressed (unexpressed) thoughts
> are starting to move down to the next chakra...communications...Writing is
> always a way to release stuff that sits in the brain
>
> I hope this makes sense and eases your pressure
>
> I Love
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 12:37:48 -0400
From: Antoine <carreaATnospamvideotron.ca>
To: cindy moore <kaymoore68ATnospamhotmail.com>
Cc: bluewater-architectsATnospamerols.com, anuragATnospamee.iisc.ernet.in,
 kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-id: <360E69DC.2A360043ATnospamvideotron.ca>

I was wandering if one who is awakened still as chakras. And is having a
chakra system necessary to be awakened, or is not just a path or religion
among many.

Antoine

cindy moore wrote:
>
> To Anurag and list
>
> Truly said, OBE's, telepathy, etc. are aspects, (related to chakras)
> some people can have one or more chakras active and developed, but not
> have a full kundalini awakening - all chakras working together and
> understood by the individual.
> Cindy
>
> >Astral projections r related to kundalini but i don't know if one can
> one
> >make a statement that if one is having astral projections than ones
> >kundalini is awakened.
> >
> >love,
> >anurag
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 09:40:38 PDT
From: "Evelyn Niedbalec" <log_me_inATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: OBE
Message-ID: <19980927164039.28679.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

For me, they just happened by themselves after I went to sleep.
THinking about wanting to have one during the day and before going to
sleep increases their frequency. After some practice, I was able to
have them from lucid dreams as well. I just have to remember when I'm
in the ld to do it.
-E

>
>i just wanted how do people here on the list get an OBE. Is it mainly
>when one is going to sleep or in meditation.
>
>love,
>anurag
>
>


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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:03:47 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: YahseyesATnospamaol.com
cc: heidiATnospamadan.kingston.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com,
 kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Re: The out-of-body deal.
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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 YahseyesATnospamaol.com wrote:

> Hi Am, I am learning Theosopy and recently read a number of articles on
> Hypnosis by the founders. They also choose to call this energy force a
> liquid. Much of the idea was put in their heads by Mesmer who made Hypnosis
> famous in the 18 and 19 century in England I believe or maybe France. He

It was france. Where he cured people by giving them water in which magnet
has been kept for hours and also by applying magnetic fields. He named
it as animal magnetism.
 
love,
anurag
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:39:51 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Sinus Headaches
Message-ID: <360E7865.29E705EEATnospamwtp.net>
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Anurag Goel wrote:

> Yes , too much thoughts can certainly be one major cause. I have found
> applying ice or putting my head under cold water to be helpful followed
> by Shava Asana whenever i get stressed during meditation.

What is Shava Asana?
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 13:47:45 EDT
From: YahseyesATnospamaol.com
To: anuragATnospamee.iisc.ernet.in, pippiATnospammetrolink.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Re: Sinus Headaches
Message-ID: <fc47c224.360e7a41ATnospamaol.com>

Too much thought does seem to fit most headaches, but I am not sure if we can
apply it to all. I know that every physical manifestation has its astral
counterpart but for example, I get tremendously awful headaches when I don't
get enough sleep and also, the sinus being affected by enlarging against the
capillaries causing bloated pain from too much water, maybe due to allergies
of Pippi, must have an astral counterpart but "too many thoughts" doesn't seem
to fit.

I was once given excellent advice from the list re: my sleeping headaches and
swollen throat being caused physically from the inability of the lymph system
to get rid of all the lactose acid ususally done in the muscles during the
sleep process. In my case, the astral counterpart was that my energy from the
throat and head charkras was not being cleared because I was attempting to
stop K without knowing it. After my awakening, these pains subsided when I
had too little sleep. I had to give myself up to the Goddess. So in my case,
it was too little thought.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:23:45 -0400
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: I am shameless
Message-ID: <000c01bdea43$f78c08e0$a0d11fa8ATnospamsharonwe>
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 charset="iso-8859-1"

Yes, I am shameless. Here is a link to a book of ghost stories edited by my
daughter, Wendy Webb, and best-selling author Charles Grant.

The book is called "Gothic Ghosts."

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:26:03 EDT
From: GISLENNEATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Hi Everyone
Message-ID: <a25813d6.360e833bATnospamaol.com>

Hi everyone

   I wanted to let you all know that I am doing MUCH BETTER!!!!
  Let me tell you all what happened last night!!

   First at about 12 noon when i was about to meditate I started feeling
really light and dizzy, like sort of elated....like again i wanted to run and
scream, It was a really odd feeling, something i haven't ever felt
before....the thought came to mind that you guys were sending me healing..or
whomever it was.
  so i went up to meditate and I had the thought of holding two rocks,i laid
one on my third eye area and the other on my heart center, then I meditated
for a half hour.
 Nothing really happened there except that afterwards I felt in a really bad
mood, like I wanted to kick someones ass!! I told myself to ground....

   Well later that night while I was sleeping, I was having this dream and in
my drean Goddess was telling me that she was going to do something to me, but
that she couldn't quite yet because something was going to fall, so she said
lets wait till it falls and then I'll get it done. So, in my dream I'm waiting
for something to fall and all of a sudden i hear it, it was LOUD!! So I jumped
up out of my dream and my husband woke up also because he heard the fall...I
didn't want to ask him if he heard it, because i thought it was in my dream,
but then my husband asks me if I heard somehting fall and so i said yes. Well
we both get up to see if the kids feel out of their beds...we go into the hall
and i tell him that the dof isn't barking so noone can be in the house...so my
husband grabs a vase and goes down stairs to check out the house anyway, deep
down I'm calm, cause i know that this had to do with my dream...so i went to
the bathroom, then my husband comes back up and we get into bed, and I go to
fall asleep...well when i close my eyes I all of a sudden have these two
really bright lights flicker in my head, it was as if I had a flashlight a
really bright flashlight shine in my head...So i opened my eyes to see if my
husband noticed a light and I asked him if he saw a really bright light in the
room and he said no. So i figure maybe its just me....but still deep down
inside I feel that something is being done to me, so i close my eyes and fall
asleep.

  Well when i wake up in the morning I always go into my visualizations, as i
am in my visualization I see this REALLY BRIGHT LIGHT, completely covering my
entire body, i can feel a deep warmth and Love coming from this light the
light is so bright that I'm afraid to open my eyes...so I just leave it there
for fear of disturbing it and sending it away, it stayed for about 5 min, just
enveloping me...the feeling was awesome!! After it is all over i feel really
good and loved and energetic, so i come down stairs and my husband tells me
(without me even telling him about the lights in my head last night) that he
saw when he came down stairs last night a round ball of light hovering over
our airconditoner down stairs, so he looked out of the back yard window and
out of the front of the house and there was noone there, so he went upstairs
wondering where that ball of light was coming from.
  The falling noise that we heard was the next door neighbors airconditioner
fallin out of their window...then my cover for my air conditioner fell....

  I have heard of the ball of light from other people, but never really put
any attention to it. Isn't that amazing, i wonder what this all means?

   Love you all...gis
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:39:48 -0400
From: Harsha <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: Lobster <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com>
CC: Kundalini - L <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Rik agrees Lobster looks more like a Horse...
Message-ID: <360E8674.A8BE5288ATnospambryant.edu>

Lobster wrote:

> You outragious fraud Harsha - next people will be asking to become
> your Chela.

Harsha: Yes. Even now there is a waiting line forming.

Lobster: Just be grateful I don't adopt you as my Guru - then you

> would be in real trouble . . .
> Next week? I am not even sure I will be here tomorrow - but then who
> is . . .
> Actually I think I will adopt you as my Guru.

Harsha: As I said there is a huge waiting list. Many have, however,
bypassed formal procedures and declared their discipleship without my
explicit permission. Recently I was even offered Gurudakshina (offering
to the Guru) right here on the list.

> Lobster: Tell me Swami what are you doing to ensure I reach
> enlightenment
> before the advancing groceries . . .

> Harsha: Nothing really. My advice would be to consume the edibles and
> share some with birds and animals.

> Lobster: You really should be making more efforts on my behalf -

Harsha: But I don't even make efforts on my own behalf. For the sake of
discussion, can you tell me the nature of effort and how effort is made.
I mean what is the driving force behind effort. Perhaps if we become
aware of that, it might be useful to inquire further.

> Lobster: spiritually I am worthless - why are you so lax . . .

> Harsha: I do not feel you or anyone else is spiritually worthless. But
> I hesitate to disagree with you on such an important personal matter.
> No doubt you know what you are talking about. Take heart. Have you not
> heard that beautiful song, "Amazing Grace, How sweet the sound....." .
> Please sing it twice a day. Why do you feel I am lax? Perhaps you are
> mixing up the words "lax" and "relax."

> Be Well
> Om Guru Ji Om
> Lobster

  Harsha: Thank you. May your life be filled with laughter, joy and
peace, and may your bring it to others.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:50:18 -0400
From: Harsha <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: nancyATnospamwtp.net
CC: kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Shava Asana - Kundalini Shakti
Message-ID: <360E88EA.AF755374ATnospambryant.edu>

nancy wrote:

> Anurag Goel wrote:
>
> > Yes , too much thoughts can certainly be one major cause. I have found
> > applying ice or putting my head under cold water to be helpful followed
> > by Shava Asana whenever i get stressed during meditation.
>
> What is Shava Asana?

Harsha: Shava Asana (Corpse Pose) simply involves lying down and deeply
relaxing every part of your body. You will find a good description of it in
any Hatha Yoga book you pick up. It is very helpful for advanced students of
Shakti Yoga. Because it leads to deep relaxation, many visions of the Goddess
or Angels or Superconscious states are facilitated.

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