1998/09/15 13:21
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #657
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 657
Today's Topics:
Re: help with moving energy [ takeuchiATnospamcgl.ucsf.EDU ]
Re: Gently does it... [ "Lobster" <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com> ]
Paul's post to kundalini-l-d Digest [ "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail. ]
Welcome L. J. Dartan [ "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail. ]
Re: Hello [ starjunkyATnospamuswest.net ]
Re: help with moving energy [ "de SIlva" <ljayATnospambigfoot.com> ]
Re: Paul's post to kundalini-l-d Dig [ Marybeth Gottshall <kmgATnospamtaconic.net ]
To list [ Barbara Alexander <nickynoodleATnospamnetr ]
Welcome back Joe Miller! [ "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com ]
Re: Paul's post to kundalini-l-d Dig [ GISLENNEATnospamaol.com ]
Re: To list [ "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com ]
Re: To list [ "RevDL.K.RM" <htminATnospamptdprolog.net> ]
Re: Welcome back Joe Miller! (and ot [ "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail. ]
Re: (no subject) CFS/FMS [ MsSheWolfATnospamaol.com ]
Re: (no subject) CFS/FMS [ Andrew Alcott Shaver <ashaverATnospamumich ]
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:31:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: takeuchiATnospamcgl.ucsf.EDU
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: help with moving energy
Message-Id: <199809150031.RAA20597ATnospamsocrates.cgl.ucsf.EDU>
Hello,
Thanks for your letter. I feel what you said works well.
I'm not sure you said it in your message, but for me what helps
alot is to move energy to the back before moving it up.
If I feel energy in the gonads, then I can move it to the back and
then pull it up. Pulling it behind the body is very helpful for
me because it is gentler to the physical body. Once I get it
to the back, It will usually tingle up, but sometimes I will
have to pull it up.
People ask why do you need to circulate it? (You
might notice it go through the forehead and up and shoot back down
in front and behind the body.)
The reason is that it opens the paths for greater amounts of
energy. If it is intense, then it can fill up the chakra, but
if you circulate it, then you will increase flow everywhere and
will be able to handle more in the original chakra too...
Take care,
Toshi
takeuchiATnospamcgl.ucsf.edu
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 02:02:36 +0100
From: "Lobster" <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: "Kundalini - L" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>,
"guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Gently does it...
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>dear lobster: actually, my random house dictionary states:
>eloquent:having, exercising, or characterized by fluent forceful
speech.
>This is a definition for us all to ponder.
>with love and the very brightest, positive light, katrina
Some forms of eloquence are not found in dictionaries.
Be Well
Indefinable Lobster
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:14:45 PDT
From: "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
To: travelinmanATnospamearthlink.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Paul's post to kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #656
Message-ID: <19980915021446.7323.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Paul wrote:
>This is my first time coming across this site. At the time I am
>really seeking to connect with others experiencing the Kundalini
>Process.
Joe:
Welcome!
>14 years ago and was a spontaneously awakening. ...I had no
>conscious knowledge. ...My sensitivity heightened, time appeared to
>speed, up, I began to experience extreme emotions lasting till the
>present, I began channeling entities, I connected with my so called
>higher self, I began what I call realizations, etc.
>I began experienceing physical manifestations in my body. ...At
>times I was in tears and other times I was in higher consciousness
>feeling ecstasies of awareness.
>...it has made my life extremely confusing and difficult.
Joe:
That's about par for the course for most of us at one time or another.
>I would be happy to share my experiences with anyone that is
>sincerely interested.
That is the purpose of the list. What do you want to say?
>I have found some books to be helpful and others to be misleading
>and written by authors whom do not really understand the process,
>but approach it in a superficial manner.
Very true. Books in general are not that good a source of information.
Some are better than nothing, nothing is better than many (meaning
nothing really is better, that's how bad they are). Books of western
origin are usually written by people who don't really understand
Kundalini at any sort of advanced level, no matter how sincere they are.
Good eastern books are written in the traditional way: they are outlines
to be used by a qualified teacher to use to instruct the student.
I'd like very much to hear more from you.
Namaste,
Joe
PS: If anyone on the list was wondering about me...I'm back.
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:35:36 PDT
From: "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
To: dartanATnospamvoyager.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Welcome L. J. Dartan
Message-ID: <19980915023536.23864.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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L. J. wrote:
>when i was no older than 15 i had an unexpected experience
>with what i believe is kundalini. ... i was meditating on nothing
>in particular when i felt a strange sensation that i can only >describe
as "electric" starting at the root chakra and moving
>upward. not knowing anything about it i practiced it often
>till i could bring up the energy without even entering a meditative
>state. ..... in the past year or so, i began using it again in
>meditations and have found the skill easy to reaquire. i was
>wondering if there are any dangers i should know about?
There are dangers to "playing" with Kundalini. There are many activities
that can cause damage that will imped Kundalini from getting to the goal
and bringing enlightenment. Some are fairly easy to fix or repair others
are very difficult to over come. But to be honest it is like masturbator
in one respect: We've all done it, whether we want to admit it or not!
>From your description I'd guess you have a Vajra or Saraswati nadi (the
pathways or channels that prana and Kundalini travel in) rising. Logic:
A true rising (in Susumna or other "correct" nadi) will not have to be
brought back up from the root chakra. That is when it reaches
heart/throat/etc. it "lives there", it can go back down and return but
it is only noticeable in extremely rare individuals (except for those
who are enlightened, who are even rarer).
As to how dangerous it is...
The least danger is you are increasing the tendency of Kundalini to use
a less productive nadi. This will make it harder to get her to take the
right road later, she is a creature of habit.
If you are using it to do other things, like psychic powers, etc. the
risk can increase. If these things are done to excess you can damage
certain parts of the brain (Kundalini parts, you probably won't notice
it in intellectual function) possibly beyond repair. This precludes
enlightenment in this lifetime. I have a friend who has done that, but
he is one hell of a psychic.
Namaste,
Joe
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:14:46 -0600
From: starjunkyATnospamuswest.net
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Hello
Message-ID: <35FC8A26.CA80346AATnospamuswest.net>
starjunkyATnospamuswest.net wrote:
>
> Paul Torres wrote:
>
> > I apologize for my abscence, but my mind has been occupied for a
> > while. I also have just had my wisdom teeth removed a week ago.
> > I am experiencing some very extreme highs and lows at this time. I am
> > at a valley right now, but I should soon be lifted again, for a while at
> > least. I have had a bunch of things to deal with this past week, and I
> > am not sure when I will see the light at the end of the tunnel, or so to
> > speak. I got kicked off of the mailing list, because I haven't read
> > e-mail for a while. I let the e-mails pile up until my account was full,
> > it then rejected the rest of the mails recieved, and so I got kicked off
> > of the list.
> > With any luck, though, I will be back on soon, but would you do me a
> > favor and send my apology to the list, I feel bad that this has
> > happened. I really enjoyed being a part of this list, and it would be a
> > shame if I couldn't get back on.
> >
> > fowarding for Paul.
>
> Love Love LoveAimee
Paul Torres wrote:
> I apologize for my abscence, but my mind has been occupied for a
> while. I also have just had my wisdom teeth removed a week ago.
> I am experiencing some very extreme highs and lows at this time. I am
> at a valley right now, but I should soon be lifted again, for a while at
> least. I have had a bunch of things to deal with this past week, and I
> am not sure when I will see the light at the end of the tunnel, or so to
> speak. I got kicked off of the mailing list, because I haven't read
> e-mail for a while. I let the e-mails pile up until my account was full,
> it then rejected the rest of the mails recieved, and so I got kicked off
> of the list.
> With any luck, though, I will be back on soon, but would you do me a
> favor and send my apology to the list, I feel bad that this has
> happened. I really enjoyed being a part of this list, and it would be a
> shame if I couldn't get back on.
>
> fowarding for Paul.
Love Love LoveAimee
found this in unsent drafts file dont know if you ever got this
: )
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:44:18 +0400
From: "de SIlva" <ljayATnospambigfoot.com>
To: "Liz Linton" <signalfireATnospamgurlmail.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: help with moving energy
Message-Id: <m0zIrix-001IxDCATnospamom2.gto.net.om>
Hi.....
This is a very interesting coincident...Or is it?
Well I have been working on the same theme past few weeks and feel one way
to dothis is to utilize all the forces that co-arise with say Impulsive
Sexual urge to a better productive purpose.
I do this by trying to be aware of inner forces at play and trying to
utilize thought and emotive energies that arise to feed the process of
detached *awareness* and *clear comprehension* two mental qualities
identified in Vipassana technique of Buddhist meditation. It seems to work;
but needs continuous mental observation.
It is basically learning to utilize energies of unwanted emotions to fuel
the fire of above factors of enlightenment.
Peace
Linton J.
----------
> From: Liz Linton <signalfireATnospamgurlmail.com>
> To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
> Subject: help with moving energy
> Date: 14 September 1998 19:18
>
> I've been experimenting with ways to move energy in the body -- sexual
energy and anger are the 2 I'm working with right now. I'd love it if
people from the list would try either one or both of these experiments and
share what you experience with me on private email.
>
> The experiments are similar. The first one is a way to move sexual energy
out of the 2nd chakra when it is not wanted there. If this works easily or
well for others it would be a good skill for people to have when they are
sexually aroused in a socially inappropriate situation (being attracted to
a friend's spouse comes to mind.)
>
> Imagine that there is a big cable connecting your 2nd chakra to your
forehead. Imagine the the sexual energy traveling up this cable and into
the forehead, through the brain and down the spine. Circulate it through
the 2nd chakra and back up the cable until the there is no longer a press
of energy in the 2nd chakra. How many circulations does it take for you to
notice the energy leveling and what else do you notice.
>
> Please also try a similar experiment with anger or just irritation. Cycle
the energy forward from the amygdala to the forehead and down the cable
into the second chakra, back, up the tailbone and up the spine and through
the brain. How many cycles does it take to calm down? What breathing
exercises are effective with this?
>
> For anyone who trys this, thank you! I am very interested in knowing your
results!!!
> --signalfire
>
>
> get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com
>
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 98 07:04:04 -0400
From: Marybeth Gottshall <kmgATnospamtaconic.net>
To: "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
cc: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Paul's post to kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #656
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Joe wrote:
>
>PS: If anyone on the list was wondering about me...I'm back.
Heeeyyyyy, YIPPEE!!! Welcome back, Joe...we missed you! How was your trip
and what did you learn?
Love, Marybeth
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:57:03 -0400
From: Barbara Alexander <nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: To list
Message-ID: <35FE641E.86DDD78AATnospamnetrax.net>
I have not been a member of the list very long, but since I've been a
part of it, I have received many helpful suggestions. I can't remember
who said what but your help is appreciated. To other new members here
are just some of the suggestions that I have found very helpful
Establish communication with Shakti and surrender your burdens to
her. Shakti does indeed provide but you must be open to the fact that
it may not be in the you think it should be.
Keep a journal. In the midst of all the internal confusion a journal
helps organize all those thoughts and feelings that are swirling around
in your mind.
Turn to others when everything gets crazy. Many on the list have
been where you are right now and have understanding and insight. Not
everyone will respond in a kind and loving way but we are each where we
are supposed to be at any given point in time. Be open to learning from
the pleasant and the unpleasant.
Meditate. Clear the mind so that everything else is open to change.
Do get books on the subject. There is so much going on that the list
cannot answer all of your questions. Question everything you read to
see if it feels right for you and don't do anything that you are not
comfortable with. Some things you will be ready for and some things
you are not.
Do ask questions to the list. Someone will hear you.
Someone suggested dancing. I've been reading about that and intend to
try it in the near future.
Yoga exercised are helpful. No, you do not have to be able to stand
on your head or contort you body into unusual positions to practice
yoga. Start with simple breathing exercises and build from there.
Diet and exercise matter and these are two areas that I personally
have been neglectful of, but
eventually I will deal with them. When faced with so much it is easy to
become overwhelmed. Work with whatever areas you can and when one area
stabilizes, ad a new area.
Do not be afraid to post on the list. What is the worst that can
happen? If it gets to be too much you can always say nothing again or
unsubscribe.
Much love to all,
barb
P.S. How does one pronounce Reiki?
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 06:36:53 PDT
From: "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com>
To: joemillerATnospamhotmail.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Welcome back Joe Miller!
Message-ID: <19980915133654.27914.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Joe wrote:
>
>PS: If anyone on the list was wondering about me...I'm back.
Heeeyyyyy, YIPPEE!!! Welcome back, Joe...we missed you! How was your
trip
and what did you learn?
Love, Marybeth
=======================
me, too. welcome back, Joe. missed your voice here.
love, -Jim
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:42:15 EDT
From: GISLENNEATnospamaol.com
To: joemillerATnospamhotmail.com, travelinmanATnospamearthlink.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Paul's post to kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #656
Message-ID: <ad55bfc7.35fe6eb7ATnospamaol.com>
Hi all
Hey Joe, i am writing a book on Kundalini as i am experiencing the
Awakening, i had read other books and had not understood anything I was
reading, I became scared and thought i was possesed!!! I did not start out
wanting to write a book, but as my Kundalini kept rising i kept on having a
very strong desire to let people know in SIMPLE terms and personal experiences
what Kundalini is all about..
I have asked other K members to share, so if you would like to share as well
be my guest... Kundalini is not something one should be afraid of...and we
have to share our feelings to let others know they are not alone ....the world
is having a tremendous awakening right now....I must hurry and get the book
out...
Love you all.Gis
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 06:47:33 PDT
From: "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com>
To: nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: To list
Message-ID: <19980915134734.17327.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Dear Barb:
>>>
P.S. How does one pronounce Reiki?
>>>
It's pronounced "ray-kee" and there are several good websites devoted
to reiki. Not everyone who practices reiki is k-awake, but I was
surprised how many k-awake folk do practice some form of healing.
I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have about Reiki (though
I'm no expert) or practice sending some your way. No charge for list
members. :-)
Anyone who wants to exchange distance healing, please contact me. I can
introduce you to several people from this list and others who will work
with you.
BTW, barb, loved your post. Thanks for sharing what has worked for you.
I'm filing that one away for future reference.
Love all, -Jim
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:00:12 -0700
From: "RevDL.K.RM" <htminATnospamptdprolog.net>
To: <nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net>, <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: To list
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Hi Barb,It's Ray-Key but some just have thair own way of prounouncing
it, and Reiki will get the K rising if you get an attunment in about a year
or less, Denise
-----Original Message-----
From: Barbara Alexander <nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 6:01 AM
Subject: To list
> I have not been a member of the list very long, but since I've been a
>part of it, I have received many helpful suggestions. I can't remember
>who said what but your help is appreciated. To other new members here
>are just some of the suggestions that I have found very helpful
> Establish communication with Shakti and surrender your burdens to
>her. Shakti does indeed provide but you must be open to the fact that
>it may not be in the you think it should be.
> Keep a journal. In the midst of all the internal confusion a journal
>helps organize all those thoughts and feelings that are swirling around
>in your mind.
> Turn to others when everything gets crazy. Many on the list have
>been where you are right now and have understanding and insight. Not
>everyone will respond in a kind and loving way but we are each where we
>are supposed to be at any given point in time. Be open to learning from
>the pleasant and the unpleasant.
> Meditate. Clear the mind so that everything else is open to change.
> Do get books on the subject. There is so much going on that the list
>cannot answer all of your questions. Question everything you read to
>see if it feels right for you and don't do anything that you are not
>comfortable with. Some things you will be ready for and some things
>you are not.
> Do ask questions to the list. Someone will hear you.
> Someone suggested dancing. I've been reading about that and intend to
>try it in the near future.
> Yoga exercised are helpful. No, you do not have to be able to stand
>on your head or contort you body into unusual positions to practice
>yoga. Start with simple breathing exercises and build from there.
> Diet and exercise matter and these are two areas that I personally
>have been neglectful of, but
>eventually I will deal with them. When faced with so much it is easy to
>become overwhelmed. Work with whatever areas you can and when one area
>stabilizes, ad a new area.
> Do not be afraid to post on the list. What is the worst that can
>happen? If it gets to be too much you can always say nothing again or
>unsubscribe.
> Much love to all,
> barb
>P.S. How does one pronounce Reiki?
>
>
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:25:23 PDT
From: "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
To: jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com, kmgATnospamtaconic.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Welcome back Joe Miller! (and other off-topic stuff)
Message-ID: <19980915152524.2983.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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>
>Joe wrote:
>>
>>PS: If anyone on the list was wondering about me...I'm back.
>
>Heeeyyyyy, YIPPEE!!! Welcome back, Joe...we missed you! How was your
>trip and what did you learn?
>
>Love, Marybeth
>
>=======================
>
>me, too. welcome back, Joe. missed your voice here.
>
>love, -Jim
>
Jim and Marybeth,
Thanks for the welcome, I really do appreciate it very much.
I took some time for a vacation as well as the class and I've been home
trying to straighten out my life, far too long neglected, before jumping
back into the net and this list. As to what I did and learned:
I went to the ToDo Institute which is the place where they teach the
prinicples of Constructive Living, a synthesis of the Morita and Naikan
schools of Japanese psycholotherapy. The ideas are outlined in a series
of books by David K. Reynolds, who did the synthesis and brought the
concepts to the west. The best known are probably from his water series:
"Playing ball on running water", "Thirsty while swimming in the lake",
etc. but (for my money) better summations are in "Constructive Living"
(small yet informative) and more completely in "The Constructive Living
Handbook".
It took Reynolds about a dozen books to explain CL to his satisfaction
(so far) and I went through a 10 day residential program (a real 24 hr
per day program, you live in the home of the teacher) so even giving a
brief summation will take some bandwidth.
I went for the Morita part. I have been suffering a major depression for
some years. When I filed for divorce I completely surcomed to the
depression and could only just make it into work. The divorce went no
where due to my inactivity. When I went for conventional therapy I got
the added diagnosis of ADD (they missed it when I was a child). CL
(deservedly) claims a good record with both depression and ADD so I
jumped on it with both feet.
My metaphor to explain the Morita concept is there are three vehicles,
thoughts, feelings, and actions. They are chained together so that when
one is moving it pulls the others along with it. Thoughts and feelings
have powerful engines but no steering wheel, no brakes, no gas pedal,
nothing that allows you to control their direction or speed. They engage
by you sitting in their seat. Just sit in one of them and it'll take
off, toward somewhere at some speed, and pulls you and the other two
vehicles with it. It is in control, not you. You gave it control by
choosing it, beyond "unchoosing" it you can't control it (either
feelings or thoughts).
Actions is unique. It too has a powerful engine but it has a steering
wheel, a brake, and gas pedal. In short only actions can be controlled
by you and it will pull the other two vehicles along with it (perhaps
not as soon as you'd like but eventually it will, the chain may have
some slack).
Simple huh? And I paid good money to learn this!
Anyway that's the short course (well the microscopic course). Naikan is
the softer side that helps one deal with his/her relationships (all
kinds, including with the checkout person, the car, etc.) and would need
more space to give even a microscopic course.
Again thanks for the welcomes, it is good to be back.
Namaste,
Joe
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:03:48 EDT
From: MsSheWolfATnospamaol.com
To: ****ATnospamtwsuvm.uc.twsu.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: (no subject) CFS/FMS
Message-ID: <6129339a.35feac04ATnospamaol.com>
Dear Jill (and list members),
I am putting this out to the list, as well, Jill. It is an easy way for the
people that I received information from to know that I am still trying. I
invite anyone who wishes to respond to respond to do so.
I am sorry that I have not responded earlier. I started to write you again
when I received word that my dear friend in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, was in
a car accident and has broken her back. Fortunately, it didn't sever the
spinal cord. She is one of the most together, spiritual women I have ever
known. I am going to be flying up there to help her with her healing and she
is having a spiritual healer at her spirituality group on Saturday, so I will
be flying up there from Maryland in a day or so. She was lurking on this list
for awhile. She is a Reike Healer herself.
Thank you for the information you have provided me so that I can search for
the CFS study. I am sure I will be able to find it from the leads you have
provided for me. I have heard about Ayuveda from my friend Rick Puravs (he is
on this list - (Ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net) - I believe he recently introduced
himself to you. He is a very intelligent person and is knowledgable about
Kundalini and is a Buddhist. I am learning a great deal with/from him. I am
going to be going to Michigan where he lives in two weeks. I will be there
for 6 mths, and possibly for the rest of this life. We will be
studying/practicing Tantric Yoga. I am hoping this will have a beneficial
effect on my CFS/FMS. I can't remember who said this on the list (probably
Flute), but that Reike may help and that we don't experience enough touch in
our busy lives. This may be a good point, as I have been in a marriage for 22
years with man who never touches me in any way. He is highly educated and
extremely brilliant but has no intimacy/social skills. You can see how the
Tantric Yoga may be very healing for me. Rick is very healing for me. He
also has a huge library. There will be much availability & opportunity for me
to study and practice.
I will look for Deepak Chopra's book, "Perfect Health" and for David Simon's
newest book. Thank you for offering me reading referrals. There is certainly
a contrast in writing style between these two authors. It should be
interesting to compare. I will also move toward contacting Rama Kant Mishra.
His practices sound interesting. I live in Annapolis, MD...very close to DC
where many times there are special events that might include something he
would do. However, as I said, I am going to be gone to Michigan with Rick,
but there is always the possibility of JewelHeart in Ann Arbor, and Michigan
seems to be a haven for spiritual seekers.
The fact that you have been through this illness yourself, especially during a
time where should have been succeeding academically....attending Yale! You
inspire me to believe that it is actually possible to get well. When I read
the 9/8 post written by CKress it all felt so horrible because I can relate to
all the symptoms described. One of the things that has made me so suicidal is
the memory loss and feeling like my IQ has dropped. Where once I was a
confident debater, I am now afraid I won't remember the answer or that I will
forget the point I was trying make. I lack confidence in academic circles,
and tend to gravitate away from old friends. You and others here have given
me hope again.
Love in the Spirit.....Cher
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:57:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Alcott Shaver <ashaverATnospamumich.edu>
To: MsSheWolfATnospamaol.com
cc: ****ATnospamtwsuvm.uc.twsu.edu, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: (no subject) CFS/FMS
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980915144727.9067A-100000ATnospamqix.rs.itd.umich.edu>
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On Tue, 15 Sep 1998 MsSheWolfATnospamaol.com wrote:
> However, as I said, I am going to be gone to Michigan with Rick,
> but there is always the possibility of JewelHeart in Ann Arbor, and Michigan
> seems to be a haven for spiritual seekers.
Hey, that's my town! And you're welcome to it...
I am not a direct part of Jewel Heart, but I am grateful for
their high-profile here. Their big annual benefit (the Allen
Ginsburg Memorial Concert, featuring Patti Smith and Phillip Glass
this year) falls on October 2. Tickets are now available for from
$10 to $25.
And re: dancing, well, we just had the annual Blues & Jazz
Fest, and I surprised even myself by letting Bo Diddley take control
of my soul (Goddess has to step aside every now and then!)
and dancing up a terrific frenzy!!
Also of note, Marianne Williamson recently relocated
to a suburb of Detroit and has high hopes of revitalizing
one of capitalism's biggest crimes. Film at 11...
Love,
Andy
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