1998/08/30 15:31
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #612
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 612
Today's Topics:
Re: warning: negative vibes [ ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Is this part of the K experience [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
Re: K experience? or......what? [ "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
Re: K experience?or...what? [ "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
Re: Is this part of the K experience [ "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
Website [ "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
Re: K experience?or...what? [ "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
Re: Is this part of the K experience [ v <vooperATnospameagle.ptialaska.net> ]
Last Word [ "Wonderer" <Mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com> ]
Re: Is this part of the K experience [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
Re: Is this part of the K experience [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: Is this part of the K experience [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: Last Word [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 15:31:28 EDT
From: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
Subject: Re: warning: negative vibes
Message-ID: <1bbfbf57.35e9a890ATnospamaol.com>>
In a message dated 8/30/98 2:44:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us writes:
< I feel a descent into the deep coming on... Hopefully I'll come back with
something useful that I can share.
And you think you haven't been useful to us with these last two letters? You
allowed us to give to you. You shared what most people won't admit, and just
allowed us to love you in spite of it.
I thank you my sweet amckeon, that your sharing brought healing into my own
heart, as well as many others.
Sending you much love as you descend to the other side of darkness,
xxxtg
* A friend is someone who knows all about you and and still likes you *
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:22:46 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: Kat <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>, kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Is this part of the K experience?
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Kat wrote:
> I could no
> longer handle all the emotions I was picking up from the people around me.
> I knew that most of the people in the bar even though they were smiling were
> in fact very unhappy people.
> As I was dancing I could acutually feel the flow of the
> music and also the emotions of the person that I was dancing with. It was
> while I was dancing that this incredible feeling of joy rushed through my
> system and I understood why I could not go backwards!
Hi Kat,
Thanks for sharing your experience. It sounds to me like you are becoming
intuned with others. Perhaps that's what Intuition is all about.
About a month ago, I was really feeling yucky. I was picking up on impending
doom that was going to happen in one person's life. I also knew my coworker was
extremely ill--needed to be hospitalized--but she wasn't taking action. I felt
these things, yet I was powerless to impell others to avoid calamity. My
thought is that as we become more spiritually aware, we pick up on energies
around us. So we're feeling emotions even illness that others aren't feeling.
But after a while, I was completely drained and feeling crazy. I mean, it's one
thing to process my own emotions, processing others pushed me over the edge! A
friend of mine passed on a tip that I have found very useful. As I was telling
him about how I was picking up on these things, he commented that everytime I
talked about it, I looked to the left. Seems I was reading empathically that
way. He suggested that I visualize my aura (energy) pushing out on my left
side.
Apparently, being empathic with others is the "easiest" way to be intuitive.
It's not easy reading those feelings, though! Now, when I want to tune into
others, I affirm that I want the information either filtered through my crown
or through my heart. Seems to feel a lot better.
Thanks for bringing up such a meaningful topic. Yes, I do think becoming
intuned or intuitive is part of the k-process.
Nancy
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 16:00:21 -0400
From: "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: "Dharma" <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: K experience? or......what?
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Hi Dharma,
>>How about the sightings of black type shadows floating around? Is this
part
>>of the K as well?
>
>Sure, K. is energy, and a lot of things can be powered with that energy.
>These black shadows are not something I see. But your next letter sounds
>like you're opening up your perception on the astral level, sensing
>emotions etc. much more. Chances are, the black shadows are astral too.
>If they're not bothering you, why worry? Just something around that you
>didn't see before. :) Maybe Angelique can tell you more about them.
I guess I get worried that these black shadows are entities and that is why
I worry. I am however not worrying as much now and some of them are now
even bigger but they do not bother me they just float away.
>>As I am drifting off into a sleep or just waking up I often will hear a
>>voice but when I go to focus in on it , I can no longer hear it.
Sometimes
>>I hear a voice that seems more like a thought.....is this one of my
guides?
>
>Could be! The higher communication actually works by people receiving
>ideas. Some people get the idea directly, and then they have to struggle
>over how to express it in order to write it down or tell anyone else.
>Other people have a kind of instant brain translation that puts the idea
>into sounds, usually words, voices. Other people's brain translation puts
>the idea into visual images and they see pictures, symbols, etc. A friend
>of mine used to see what looked like a ticker tape scrolling across in
>front of her visual field, and the message was printed on it in words.
This happens to me many different ways. I can pick up the thought. I do
not always recognize at first that it is not my own thought. This can be
very confusing at times. I also visualize images and can see symbols. I
had one symbol appear to me once when I was trying to do astra travel.
First I saw two hands in the prayer position. Then the hands opened up. A
ball was spinning between these two hands I did not understand at the time
what it meant and I am still not sure but I was not successful on my attempt
on astral travel either. If I was to guess now perhaps I was being told
that their was a whole world out there to explore in a spiritual way? My
quest for enlightment became stronger after that.
>
>When I first began hearing voices regularly, I was walking in the park,
>thinking. I had a flash of intuition that answered something I was
>thinking about, heard the statement in my voice in my head - I often do
>that. Then I had another intuition and another one. About the fourth time
>I began to get the feeling that something strange was happening with all
>these answers coming so fast. And I wondered if it was always my own voice
>I was hearing. So I just asked, "Is this somebody else talking to me?"
>And I heard, "Yes." So then I just had to learn to tell when it was me and
>when it wasn't. In those days I used to talk to a small group of sources,
>and each voice sounded different to me, so I could tell by the voice who it
>was. All a matter of brain translation. And occasionally I would see
>something symbolic instead of hearing.
This is somewhat what it is like for me right now. It is a group that
speaks to me when I am awake but when I am sleeping it normally is only one
and that one will take on many different forms and appearances. It is from
this one that I have learnt the most.
>
>Now my perception is a mixture. I may hear some of it, see something, and
>grasp some of it as an idea, then flounder with how to express that. It's
>kind of difficult to write that mixed stuff down - often I just compromise
>and write down the gist of whatever it was about. And I think, even when
>it's words, I'm becoming more aware of getting the idea and instantly
>getting it into words.
>
>It helps if you have a method for getting yes/no answers - finger signals
>or muscle testing. Sometimes if I see or hear something unusual, I ask my
>guide, "Was that a message?" Or "Did you say that?" If the answer is no,
>then it was just a stray bit of dream stuff or something - not to worry
>about. :)
Thank you for sharing with me your expriences! I learnt a lot just
listening to what you had to say.
>
>>>Using a tone as a focus for meditation is a good way to do something else
>>>than think - to meditate without thought without trying to _stop_ the
>>>thoughts, see? And for me it's a useful substitute for the music I
usually
>>>hear in my head. Opera is glorious, but a simple tone is usually more
>>>beneficial for meditation. :))
On days like today when I am in deep pain I can go into what I call a numb
stage. No thought that I am aware of. While I am in this stage I can hear
voices more clearly then at any other time and I can tell you they are
talking up a storm. The only problem is some of what is being said can be
very negetive. This is where I will question ......is this me? or is this
someone that I should be asking to leave?
>If you're actually hearing it in your ears, maybe using the tones will help
>the music to get stronger too.
I hear the musical sounds two different ways. Sometimes it is through the
ears. The other way seems to be in a way that is hard to descripe but I
would have to say in my head.
>
>The music I hear doesn't seem to be in my ears; it's in my head. I
>starting playing the piano and reading music before I was six, so I can
>look at a piece of music and hear it all in my head without going to the
>piano. Beethoven was composing music when he was stone deaf! He heard it
>in his head.
I had heard that he was deaf but I had not heard how it was that he was able
to do it. I thought that it might have something to do with vibrations. If
my eyes are closed I can feel objects around me and their weight and size.
I use to pretend I was blind and walk around with my eyes closed as a child.
Now I do not do this but now I am wondering if this is something I should be
practicing after all. Maybe the child within me knew something that I don't
know now? Nice to know that other people hear music the way that I do.
>
>I'm not always aware of the music that's playing in my head - I just don't
>always pay attention. But it can be very beautiful, and useful too. If my
>body gets going very fast and I have too much energy, I usually find
>there's some very fast, rhythmic music going, and if I make it change into
>a slow piece, it helps to slow down the whole body.
I can see where this kind of inner knowledge could be used to help the
person to calm themselves down when things gets rough. I too am not always
aware that the music is in my head and not where everyone can hear it. The
fountain sitution that I descriped here is a very good example of it.
>
>In meditation it can be a distraction, although I have had moments when my
>guide just enjoyed it along with me. :)) But it's kind of frustrating to
>be trying to get into meditation for several minutes and then realize
>you're listening to "99 bottles of beer on the wall..." The pure tones do
>work as a substitute for distracting music.
LOL!!!! Been there done that!
In L&L & Understanding,
Katharine
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 15:23:58 -0400
From: "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: <CKRESSATnospamaol.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: K experience?or...what?
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Hi Shanti,
>Katherine wrote that her computer "is doing things completely on its own!"
>When Kundalini is active, all kinds of paranormal and other weirdness can
>occur in electrical equipment, including battery operated appliances. I've
>known of several cases where televisions turn themselves off and on at
random.
>When my Kundalini was strongest, the people next door to us told us that
for
>several days in a row, their TV had been turning itself on full blast in
the
>middle of the night.
Thank you for sharing this with me and the others. I posted this message on
another list that I am on and I am now in a lot of trouble over it. It is
being assumed that I am misleading the group and Lieing. Guess I learnt a
lesson from this. In the future anything to do with the possibility of the
Kundalini Rising I will only post here.
>
>Fires are also common occurrences in the vicinity of someone with awakened
>Kundalini. The house on the other side of ours burned down the week my
>Kundalini rose! Yikes -- my aura seems to extend pretty far. Fortunately,
>nobody was hurt. Neither of these neighbors had any idea I was undergoing
a
>Kundalini awakening.
>
I found this interesting as well. I am not sure now whether I had mentioned
it here or not but over a week ago my monitor blew from being to hot. I
also noticed the room temperature went up several degrees when this
happened! Thank God the monitor was still under warrantie! and I had a
friend that had a spare one that he has allowed me to use until I get the
new one. I check his monitor often to make sure it is not getting to hot.
>Katherine also mentions "a ringing noise like a telephone that is not being
>answered" that happens "over and over and over again." I've heard of
numerous
>cases of this phenomena, which often seems related to spirits trying to
>contact us. In some cases they have caused actual phones in the home to
ring
>repeatedly. When answered, nobody seems to be on the line. They also
have
>been known to leave a series of phantom empty messages on answering
machines.
I have heard of this theory. I guess I just didn't want to think about it
as I am still uncertain to what I should trust in this way.
>
>May be that someone (probably on the other side) is trying to send a
literal
>message to Katherine and is trying to get her attention through the
computer
>shenanigans and telephone ringing sounds. I would suggest meditating to
get a
>sense of who it is and what the message might be. Say a prayer for
protection
>and/or surround yourself with white light first to screen out lower astrals
>who may be messing with you.
Okay I will try this.
>
>And pay attention to dreams; the message and source of the message may come
>through more clearly there.
I have started to do this in this past year. I now have a notepad by the
side of my bed to write down anything I remember. I did have a dream
recently that was very clear once I understood it. I also had shared it
with another list and a person on that list was able to relate directly to
it and give me his thoughts on it that in turn triggered my knowledge from
the dream.
Thank you for your suggestions and thoughts.
In L&L & Understanding,
Katharine
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 16:53:31 -0400
From: "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>, "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Is this part of the K experience?
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Hi Jan,
>Jan: What is called "normal" life, is life composed of opposites like
>pleasure and pain. For many this continuing succession is a bore or a pain
>in itself. Your observation, that the people in the bar are unhappy is
>correct: they know that when they are home again, life is gray as before.
Yes I do know that. The question of opposite I am afraid will get me to
pose a question that I am sure will get me in trouble but I must
ask.......if everything has an opposite then why do enlightened people find
it so hard to believe that the opposite of Good is Evil? and that we do not
necessarily get attacked by it because of our thoughts?
>Jan: Oneness is the goal of K., the state that is arrived at is (one of)
the
>state(s) of nonduality. In nondual states the "I" is missing. It is a
>permanent state of Bliss. What you had could be called a "preview". I hope
>it gives you the courage to "go on".
Yes if there has been a highlight in what I have been going through this
would have to be it and yes it has given me the courage to go on, on my path
that is sure to loose me a lot of friends that I have had so far. This has
concerned me as I have lost so much already. But that preview made
everything else seem to unimportant.
In L&L & Understanding,
Katharine
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 17:34:45 -0400
From: "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Website
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Hi all,
I lost a very many of my favoirte websites when my computer crashed.
Including the one for the Kundalini. I had just checked out a site where
there were many pictures of different people from here and I was wondering
if someone could give me the ULR for this site again? thanks in advance.
In L&L & Understanding,
Katharine
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 17:16:00 -0400
From: "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: <onarresATnospaminreach.com>, <CKRESSATnospamaol.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: K experience?or...what?
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Hi Dor,
>dor: Happened the other morning at two a.m., when I answered the phone all
>I heard was a lot of "different" static on the line, I hung up and then
>picked up the phone immediately and the line was as clear as a bell... no
>pun intended... later that morning while trying to sleep, I had mega
>energies going upwards to the crown chakra, and then - wouldn't you know
>it, a loud buzz that seemed to circle the head but only buzzing in the left
>ear. After that I was left with a pain in the center of the forehead. Many
>times I've gotten up to answer the door only to find no one there, and I
>distinctly heard it ring.
I have just remembered, something that I have forgotton. When I first got
the need to start researching for enlightenment I lived in a townhouse. In
this place the phone would often ring and when I would answer it I would get
this static sound in the background. Many times after I hung up I would
still see the light flashing ....pick it up and the noise was still there!
I did say hello but heard no answer. That I am aware of anyways. I too
have had the experience of the doorbell that no one has rung. Hmmm now that
I think about it this use to be a time that if I layed down and got myself
into deep thought I would feel a very strong spinning sensation and all
kinds of thoughts would enter my mind from that point on. Of course I will
add I was trying to astara travel at that time. Maybe I was more
successful then I had thought at that time? Interesting I had forgotton
about that.
>
>El: > Say a prayer for protection and/or surround yourself with white light
>first to screen out lower astrals who may be messing with you.
>
>dor: Very true, you may wish to put a glass filled with salt atop the
>computer as well, change the salt daily - since I've been doing this,
>nothing has happened.
I think I have understanding to why you would use salt but is this not
dangerous for the computer if it should happen to fall over? I can't help
but be concerned about this because of the way things fall out of no where
for no reason around me. Especailly if I am upset.
In L&L & Understanding,
Katharine
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:12:53 -0800
From: v <vooperATnospameagle.ptialaska.net>
To: Kat <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
CC: jb <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>, "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Is this part of the K experience?
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Kat wrote:
<snip>
> Yes I do know that. The question of opposite I am afraid will get me to
> pose a question that I am sure will get me in trouble but I must
> ask.......if everything has an opposite then why do enlightened people find
> it so hard to believe that the opposite of Good is Evil? and that we do not
> necessarily get attacked by it because of our thoughts?
<snip>
I have been having to reform my belief structures from being immune to
evil by the protection of THE LIGHT, to noticing the subtle & not so
subtle effects of evil in a larger sense, manifest by affectations in
people absent from their bodies (like on a computer i.e.) & the workings
of machinery or breaking down & sabotage affects thereof!
vc
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 98 16:25:36 PDT
From: "Wonderer" <Mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com>
To: "KList" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Last Word
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Lets clear this little matter up.
All I am saying is my mind is still open and I don't have any banned subjects. I did not even post the original "offending" Christian piece. I can't abide a situation where people censor other people's thoughts. All sorts of topics, some of it total nonsense, appear on this list. Censor Christianity, and here's what you get:
In the beginning was the XXXX. The XXXX was with XXX and the XXXX was XXX.
I have no other agenda. Interesting that for a banned topic, it's the subject of 75% of the posts.
Cathy
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 17:32:21 -0400
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Is this part of the K experience?
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>Kat wrote:
>>...if everything has an opposite then why do enlightened people find
>> it so hard to believe that the opposite of Good is Evil? and that we do
not
>> necessarily get attacked by it because of our thoughts?
First of all, I don't know any truly enlightened people, only people on the
path to enlightenment. :-) All the people I know still have their hangups
and conflicting beliefs and problems.
Secondly, isn't it possible that opposites are a construct of physical
existence, just as time is? Isn't it possible that in Unity opposites do
not exist? Isn't it possible that opposites appear in our life so that we
might experience life in a unique way?
If any of the above are true, then opposites are an illusion.
Love,
Sharon, who has lots of questions, but damned few answers
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 14:33:52 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Is this part of the K experience?
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At 12:33 AM 30/08/98 -0400, Kat wrote:
It is letters like these, I think, that are the very best use of
bandwidth.. Yes, Kat, that is what the K. is all about. Unity. One taste
makes it all worth it, eh, but that is just your _First_ taste.. you
realized tonight, that you had a choice, to go into the fear... you said
yes to it, out of "enjoyment of drama".. it is one way to know you are
alive, in a _separate_ sort of way.. or you can choose to say no to the
fear and see the world thru the eyes of your heart.. and one glimpse leads
to the next, then to the next, .. hey Kat, thanks for the experience.. I
saw it felt it too, when I read your email. When you make a choice to be
receptive, Goddess provides..
The Divine Beloved is All that Is.
All that Is: that wave of unity you felt, is infinite, and it's infinite
wisdom is in charge of your future. Don't worry be happy. :)
Blessings, Mystress.
>Hi All,
>
>Last night I was in a very lets say hmmmm scared mood. Scared of my
>future......I wanted to return to what I understood. I know this was wrong
>but I allowed my fear to get the better of me.<K-fired event snipped...>
The feeling was like I had become one with everyone in the
>room and we all became one with the energy around us. We were all flowing
>to a tune that we could not hear unless we wanted to. It was wonderful! Is
>this part of the K experience as well? If it is then I guess its not so bad
>to go through the pain!
>
>In L&L & Understanding,
>
>Katharine
>
>
>
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 14:28:15 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: nancyATnospamwtp.net
Cc: Kat <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>, kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Is this part of the K experience?
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At 01:22 PM 30/08/98 -0600, nancy wrote:
That is wisdom, Nancy..
The ego creates the shell of illusion of "us and "them". When K-starts to
break down the ego, the separation gets thinner.. transparent. No longer
able to complete the illusion, so the truth of unity begins to shine
through. Unity thru shared feelings.
Part of the pain of your friend's upcoming crash, comes from your judging
it as such. Stop judging good or bad in another, and love them anyways. You
already know that you can "process" the pain of others.. well, know also
that feeling it, is permission to do so.
You find it tiring coz you think it oughta be tiring, and you think it is
you that is doing it. Change the thinking, and the fatigue will vanish.
Feeling the feelings of another is Goddess calling on you to ask permission
of your free will, to use your body to heal with your love. Tell Her OK,
it's all yours.. I surrender it and give it up to you.. and let Her do the
work while you go on with your life.. just give it to her, ask Her to take
it from you.. it is Hers, after all.. everything is. Talk to Her where She
lives in your heart, tell Her take it away: "it is for you"..
unconditional love can always find a better way.. and you will feel the
stuff flowing out your crown. Because there is really only one of us, you
will likely take it out from the hurting person, when it leaves yourself.
Watch your world change, and wonder at Goddess' mystery.
Blessed be!
>
>Apparently, being empathic with others is the "easiest" way to be intuitive.
>It's not easy reading those feelings, though! Now, when I want to tune into
>others, I affirm that I want the information either filtered through my crown
>or through my heart. Seems to feel a lot better.
>
>Thanks for bringing up such a meaningful topic. Yes, I do think becoming
>intuned or intuitive is part of the k-process.
>
>Nancy
>
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 17:57:10 -0400
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: "KList" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>, "Wonderer" <Mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com>
Subject: Re: Last Word
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Cathy wrote:
>Lets clear this little matter up.
>
>All I am saying is my mind is still open and I don't have any banned
>subjects. I did not even post the original "offending" Christian piece. I
can't >abide a situation where people censor other people's thoughts. All
sorts of >topics, some of it total nonsense, appear on this list.
Cathy, nobody is censoring anybody's thoughts. Nobody CAN censor anyone's
thought, even if they wanted to.
However, if you are complaining about restrictions to what one posts, that's
a different story. Shall the k-list include recipes for chicken pot pie?
(We are what we eat.) Gardening tips? (After all, God created flowers.)
Guidelines on how to construct spacecraft? (We can meet the ETs halfway.)
Perhaps we should include discussions of TV Guide? (For those oh so
inspirational, or not so inspirational programs.)
I don't think so. And I don't think asking that writers refrain from
posting about these---or thousands of other fascinating off-topic
subjects---is censorship. There is a time and a place for everything, but
not necessarily on the k-list.
Sure, the Bible is a holy text to many. So is the Koran and the Bagavad
Gita. The world is full of books that people believe are holy, or
inspiring, or enlightened. Shall we discuss them all? Quote from them all?
Attempt to get converts to our favorites?
And what about other topics of peripheral interest to some people on this
list? Topics such as tarot, the Kaballa, Egyptology, Atlantis, Earth
Changes, the upcoming millennium, and so on. Nobody is saying these topics
are bad or should be censored, but there are other forums specifically for
these subjects just as the kundalini list is specifically for kundalini.
As for total nonsense on the list. Of course there is. K-lites are no more
free of nonsense than anyone else and I have yet to see a list without its
share.
Sharon
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