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kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #609


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 609

Today's Topics:
  Re: I AM [ "" <alan_gaskinsATnospamhotmail.com> ]
  Re: Christianity and Kundalini Not a [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Bible [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ]
  evolving [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ]
  album [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ]
  fire inspired... [ Lori Nelson <amarantATnospamunisono.net.mx ]
  kundalini and Java [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
  fractals [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ]
  Chronology [ "Magne Aga" <magneagaATnospammonet.no> ]
  Re: kundalini and Java [ GISLENNEATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: kundalini and Java [ GISLENNEATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: kundalini and Java [ Dharma <annfisherATnospamstic.net> ]
  Re: Christianity and Kundalini Not a [ "Magne Aga" <magneagaATnospammonet.no> ]
  Re: Stuck in rut [ "Evelyn Niedbalec" <log_me_inATnospamhotma ]
  Re: Bible (was Re: Ego) [ "Magne Aga" <magneagaATnospammonet.no> ]
  Re: K experience? or......what? [ "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
  Re: K experience?or...what? [ CKRESSATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: K experience?or...what? [ CKRESSATnospamaol.com ]
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 10:29:35 PDT
From: "" <alan_gaskinsATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, morlightATnospammhonline.net
Subject: Re: I AM
Message-ID: <19980829172937.20033.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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>
>Alan,
>you said,
>Kundalini is inclusive and "says" a Way.Yes. a Way - - - TO??? the
Great
>I AM That I Am. References to ? I would say,"Living water",Pentecost
>with the firey tongues over the crown centers, the Holy Spirit Mother,
>etc.I always believed the gifts of the Holy Spirit are the gifts of
>Kundalini, , the results are similar. I have enjoyed very much joining
>this group yet am waiting for the duscusions of what the way leads To.
>So much talk on the phenomena,which is wonderful but what does it lead
>to? Not 24 hour orgasms of the body but I think rather 24 hour
>ectasies,(never could spell that sucker) of the soul. Yes???
>And of course,
>More Light.
>
>+ Maureen
>
>
    Beloved, I concur completely on your comparisons. Bless you! But I
do not get it that the Way has become a wait/weight; the I AM has become
well then what is it I ain't; answers have become ?'s; and the flow has
become the wolf spelled backwards.
     That which is, is. Yes there is evolving on our part to or from a
greater understanding of the Way, the I AM, the Oneness, etc. But these
truths are infinite, omnipresent, eternal, so where can they go to or
from, when they are everywhere and all that is? It is our thinking that
limits us.
     In short, WE are that which is to or from - what? THE WAY.

in the ONENESS,
 NAMASTE,
     
Alan Gaskins

     Everything is relative to the mind, including the mind itself...

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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 12:46:17 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
Cc: "Kundalini" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Christianity and Kundalini Not at Odds Here
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At 04:24 PM 28/08/98 -0400, Sharon Webb wrote:
>Cathy,
>
>I had hoped that you would take my letter in the spirit in which it was
>intended. My letter answered every one of your points. To reiterate: the
>k list is NOT a forum for discussion of spirituality in general, it is a
>specific list meant to discuss kundalini and kundalini alone. If we all
>cooperate, the list will more or less stay on topic and do what it is
>intended to do which is to help with specifics pertaining to kundalini.

 Bravo Sharon! I hereby dub you Deputy List Mistress!
 Cathy, the argument you are trying to put forth has been "done to death",
on this list, and Sharon is right. All of life is spiritual, but All of
Life won't fit in your email box.. if you want to discus Christian
Mysticism, the web is a big place, and I would suggest you seek out Gnostic
Christianity, as it seems to be the only form that has a lot to offer a
Kundalite.
  You might also want to look up the effects of the "Toronto blessing", a
K-fire contagion that has been sweeping some churches.. and polarizing
Christianity still further.
  
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 15:52:20 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Bible
Message-ID: <35E823B4.18B30D1CATnospammhonline.net>

Thank you Jane, Big eyes,
Seems like the bible itself has become "forbidden fruit".
When all the time, right under our noses are profound refernces to the
zeal and fire of kundalini.Not in picking and nit picking apart
interpetations but broad concepts.Our God is a consuming Fire.
More and More Light!
+ Maureen
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 16:22:51 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: evolving
Message-ID: <35E82ADB.D26C5003ATnospammhonline.net>

Alan,
But these
truths are infinite, omnipresent, eternal, so where can they go to or
from, when they are everywhere and all that is? It is our thinking that
limits us.
I don't know if you got this one.
I think there is a goal. A blossoming. A fullfillment,completion and
perfection. I don't see it as a mere self realization,unless you carry
that all the way through to the Self(God within) unifying with the Self
,God. But then that involves activity and growth also. Not a sitting
around in Heaven playing harps but a nitty gritty working out in word
and deed(on whatever planet we may find ourselves) so as to invoke a
response from the temple of the Living God within the heart of people.
I believe there are octaves and progressing initiations and if I
remember my A. Bailey, "you can not proceed and pass through the door
unless you turn to take the hand of the one behind you". I interpet this
as the person behind one or the kingdom behind or "below" one. If we are
vegetarian then I think that advances the vegetable kingdom, and if we
intereact and work with crystals then that enhances and elevates that
kingdom.These people or kingdoms achieve vibrancy and depth. Ever
increasing spirals and octaves of perfection.The angelic kingdom is also
quite busy in assisting the Godhead in our human advancement.
     Goal or path. Goal and Path. Goal.For me the path is sometimes
unclear,frustrating , sensless, incredibly beautiful, totally humbling,
beyond words, and amazing.
     But the grand and Glorious Goal is (without sounding arrogant) a
little bit clearer to me. I carried it through all the way one day and
it means that I believe God advances. God evolves. You mean He/She is
and was not perfect from the beginning? Yup.
     The Ain Soph of the Kabbala resides in perfection but THAT remains
veilved. Once creation begins and the veils extend downward then there
is also a lack of perfection increasing in amount the lower one goes.
As we climb and advance our way back up ,
May each of our paths be filled with,

More Light!,

+ Maureen
I quess in a nutshell,God evolves. The Way evolves. The jealous tribal
God of the Hebrews evolvs to the loving God of the new testament and I
believe now is in the advance mode.We're actually agreeing yet I see
where I used to interpet the Way as static,a cut out pattern or mold and
now view it as ever evolving. That was always big news to me for I am a
recovering Catholic !:-) Sort of like we can never catch up but wow the
ride will be terrific!
Thank you Alan.
Namaskara and
More Light.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 16:32:48 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: album
Message-ID: <35E82D30.CF78F8F9ATnospammhonline.net>

KAT, Hi,
Please do not send the holy stuff. Not sure why but it bothers me.

OOOOOOOOOOHHH.
What's up?
That would be like me telling you, don't send the understanding stuff
after L+L cause you'll never understand.
Holy Joy is soul to soul, not just human happiness.
That's what I wish for you my friend.
Bye,
+ Maureen
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 16:00:33 -0600 (CST)
From: Lori Nelson <amarantATnospamunisono.net.mx>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: fire inspired...
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Hello,

It's been quite a pleasent surprize tho find that there is a place to
relate regardeing Kundalini. For so many years there has been no other
person for me to talk with who is activated.

I am wondering if any of you have had initiations of the private sort that
have "taken you out" of functioning in the practical sence... I also
wonder if anyone else has experienced "equinox heat wave"?

Here is a Kundalini inspired writing....

Bless,
Loraine
(Lori for short)

________

The Nature Of Heat
Path of Fire

Your heat like a reddened pulse
Some animalistic beat to high tide
Rising up my spine

Flames grow from worlds below
Steam of coals through my throat
Forcing it's tears as sighing waves
I open my mouth but I cannot not say
I hear only shadowed moans

I toss my body in spins of violent quake
To flush this fire through my veins
At an edge that can never be retrieved
The ravage hunger of a merciless beast
With rivers of blood she burns to her prey

There may be no such moment perfected
Ordained before the flame of desire
When passion has become enraged
Devouring only once it's innocence
As lovers cross the path of fire

Lori Nelson

copy right Aug. 98'
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 18:00:18 -0400
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: kundalini and Java
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Hi,
Something kinda weird happened. I had a disk stuck in my floppy drive with
no way to get it out. I was afraid to reboot because I figured the computer
would hang with a floppy in the slot. Neither my husband nor I could get
the disk out.

I had just put up some fractal Java applets on my web page and I was looking
at the one called 'Tunnel' when I went into some kind of k funk. I felt all
sorts of energy rising and I went into an altered state. When I came out of
it, the disk that was stuck in my drive was gone. ???

A few other people started using my Lake and Water fractal applets to
meditate with. The other night I was in an online meditation connected with
water. I visualized that Lake applet and I found myself going right through
the Gateway into space. The odd thing was that another woman did exactly
the same thing.

Is it the motion of these things that cause the k reaction or is it the
fractals? Or is it a combination of both? Or maybe I've just slid off the
deep end. I would appreciate any ideas about this. I had one that was so
disorienting to me that I had to delete it, but it didn't seem to bother
non-k-active people.

If you want to see what they might do to/for you the URL is below.

Sharon
shawebbATnospamyhc.edu
Seven new Fractal Java applets were
added to this page on Aug. 29, 1998

      Fractals and 2D and 3D graphics
      http://www.fractalus.com/sharon/

      Winner of nineteen top web awards.
      Free screensaver and wallpaper d/l.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 18:55:59 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: fractals
Message-ID: <35E84EBF.B317C14DATnospammhonline.net>

Sharon,
Very! Way! Cool!
Bubblegum for the eyes. Subtley hynotizing and beautiful.

More Light.
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 01:01:02 +0200
From: "Magne Aga" <magneagaATnospammonet.no>
To: <onarresATnospaminreach.com>, "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com>
Cc: "Kundalini" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Chronology
Message-Id: <199808300003.BAA19619ATnospamumbukta.monet.no>

----------
* Wonderer

> 1,000,000 - 800,000 B.C. - Early Lemurian development (let's not forget
the Lemurians were mostly spirit).

According to the Book of Dzyan, the physical humans became separated into
two sexes 18.6 million years ago.
The symbolical biblical *fall from grace*, the fall from the light body
down to material bodies, occured 26 million years ago.

>
> 500,000 B.C. - Lemuria was inundated by water, peoples
scattered.
>
> 400,000 - 300,000 B.C. - Lemuria inhabited and civilization advanced
>
> 250,000 B.C. - Second Lemurian catastrophe, possibly by fire
>

What about 206 000 B.C ?

> 80,000 B.C - First Atlantean culture emerged. Final
Lemurian submergence.
>
> 28,000 B.C. - Second Atlantean disturbance. Recorded
biblically as the Great Flood.

What about 26 000 B.C (One Star-Year) ?

>
> 10,700 B.C. - Final destruction and sinking of Atlantis.
>
> 10,390 B.C. - Final completion of The Great Pyramid by Ra Ta
and Hermes.
>

Blessings from Norway
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 19:15:22 EDT
From: GISLENNEATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini and Java
Message-ID: <71d7d34.35e88b8aATnospamaol.com>>

Hi Sharen
  Just went to your website!!! Way Cool if I do say so myself...I Love it
!!!!!!!
  Those fractals are beautiful...i can get swallowed in them!!
  I have bookmarked the pages so that i can go to them frequently!!

   Thanks and lots of love....gis
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 19:25:09 EDT
From: GISLENNEATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini and Java
Message-ID: <49fdd330.35e88dd5ATnospamaol.com>>

hi everyone
  This Kundalini is kicking my butt!!!!!!! I am having soo much pain, now iam
getting sharp pains in my neck and head...i''m wondering could this be from
the lupus or is it the actual kundalini..or is the lupus Kundalini?
  I just wish the pain would stop, so far it has been nonstop for a week.
Its travelling all over my body.
   i really didn't want to say anything cause i don't like to complain..but
man its like travelling all over the place.
  i can feel the heat in my body also...oh well, just had to let it out. Don't
like to tell the family cause they worry so i had to let it out to someone.
  sorry to be so negative!!
 love u all.....gis
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 18:26:23 -0500
From: Dharma <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini and Java
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Sharon!

>Something kinda weird happened. I had a disk stuck in my floppy drive with
>no way to get it out. I was afraid to reboot because I figured the computer
>would hang with a floppy in the slot. Neither my husband nor I could get
>the disk out.
>
>I had just put up some fractal Java applets on my web page and I was looking
>at the one called 'Tunnel' when I went into some kind of k funk. I felt all
>sorts of energy rising and I went into an altered state. When I came out of
>it, the disk that was stuck in my drive was gone. ???

You mean it wasn't just out of the drive? It was vanished, disappeared, gone??

Love,
Dharma
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 01:30:23 +0200
From: "Magne Aga" <magneagaATnospammonet.no>
To: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>,
 "Mystress Angelique Serpent" <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Cc: "Kundalini" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Christianity and Kundalini Not at Odds Here
Message-Id: <199808300032.BAA19824ATnospamumbukta.monet.no>

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* Angelique
> if you want to discus Christian
> Mysticism, the web is a big place, and I would suggest you seek out
Gnostic
> Christianity, as it seems to be the only form that has a lot to offer a
> Kundalite.

Hmm... I was just thinking about Theresa of Avilla, a female christian
mystic preaching about the *divine sound* (AONG or *AUM*). In Eastern
teaching it's called Nada-Yoga. Mystic experiences, buddhistic, hinduistic,
jewish or christian, are still mystic experiences. It's the dogmas of
ortodox churches, not only in Christianity, but in other religions too,
which have condemned their own roots - direct experience !

Every religion began from direct mystic experience. They were mystery
religions. Maybe we could say that - a mystic experience is neither
christian, buddhistic, hinduistic or jewish. IT IS ! plain and simple.

So, when Shakespeare asked: "The Church ! Where is it ?" - the answer is:
In Your Own Divine Beeing. Do not consider anyone else as your *savour*.
Only Your own High Self is the redeemer from karma.

Christianity is a Word, plain and simple. And words have different
connotations among people. Ironically, it's the ortodox christianity which
too a large extent have destroyed its reputation. The most important thing
too seek is TRUTH. Truth = Truth. It doesn't matter *who* told the truth.

Blessings from Norway
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 16:51:22 PDT
From: "Evelyn Niedbalec" <log_me_inATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Stuck in rut
Message-ID: <19980829235123.2674.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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>Think that u have to know and experience the supreme through kundalini
and
>if u r lazy in that how will u reach that goal before ur death. Time is
>ticking away second by second , day by day. Think why r u awakening ur
>kundalini?
>
>Love,
>anurag

Although I don't mean to discount the benefits of enlightenment, I don't
think that guilt and pressure is the way to the attainment of such. We
are all immortal. If it takes a few extra lifetimes, that only seems of
importance while we are here on Earth. But to our immortal selves, it
is but a tiny drop in the ocean. We are where we are supposed to be and
all will make it "in the fullness of time," stealing from Babylon 5
here.

If one is conflicted about setting the time aside to meditate, then one
has not finished with other aspects of life yet and IMHO should do so
first. We have all heard about the troubles caused by pushing the
kundalini too fast. WHen one is ready, one will be drawn to do it, not
have to be pushed into it. After all, we have not all come here just to
get back there!

In fact I often feel that even more important than meditation, is that
we apply what we know of goodness to our everyday lives and look
honestly into ourselves to know our strengths and weaknesses. This can
be done through the day while doing other things.

Life is meant to be bitten into and chewed heartily!

-Evelyn

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 02:09:59 +0200
From: "Magne Aga" <magneagaATnospammonet.no>
To: <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Bible (was Re: Ego)
Message-Id: <199808300112.CAA20006ATnospamumbukta.monet.no>

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* Me
> Magne: < The apple represents the pineal gland !
 
* Teegee
> Always great hearing from you Magne... You have soooo much knowledge in
that
> mind of yours, I always learn something from you! Thanks for being
here...
 

Funny you say so, because today I realized that I Am Completly Stupid !

Some days ago, I healed a person from drug abuse. His abstinenses for
heroin and amfetamin disappeared momentarily. A miracle ! - people say.
But, I myself cannot heal myself. I need help from Reiki healers, zone
therapeuts etc.

While healing persons aura's, I see colours yes. But I do not understand
them fully anymore.

Today, my clairvoyant abilities exploded into the uncomprehensible. The
Apple, the eternal gift beyond the Wall of Light through our head, shows me
very intensive colours. Today, I saw a light rosy intense light when a
Reiki healer helped me balance my Chi. I saw a *rainbow bridge*. I saw a
white bridge of light beneath my feats. But I do not UNDERSTAND
(under-stand = beneath your feets) everything I get tuned into.

I'm like a child. Very childish at the moment. A child want's to play, to
swim in the light energy without restrictions, without the rigid
*adultness* of our socially made, false ego.

But - think of it. You walk in your home town. You see cars, roads, people,
the railway station, the subway, the airport ... And so what ? What use do
these impressions have if you don't understand them ? Even an imature child
can be clairvoyant.

It would be ridicilous if I were a jornualist during the Gulf War, without
having an inkling of an idea of WHAT I was reporting - wouldn't it ? *Now I
see a person with a green uniform* - for example, without having even heard
about a soldier in my whole life. Not even Jerry Seinfeld could think about
something more ridiculous !

So, the larger the circle of Light, the larger it's interface to darkness.
A whole new world of clairvoyance became opened for me today, but I only
understand fragments of it. Clairvoyance, clairaudience ... We need *clair
understanding* !

My manas chakra, the 6 bladed lotus in the head, in which center the spiral
of Bindu goes up to the place where the hair splits, is during an opening
process. And for those interested in Christianity: The disciple Thomas
represented these chakra, mentioned in the Tantra tradition. Without
understanding, without illumination (buddhi) of the spiritual world
openings for us, we are stupid on a more advanced level !

I have strong colour flashes through the even broader opened chakra system.
But I do not understand all the colours anymore. There are 3, 4, maybe 5
different levels in the aura. The chakra colours in each layer differs, and
even differs depending on who spiritually evolved the person is. No wonder
people argue between which colour is the *correct*. I'm confused, stupid
and feels like a playing child, reborn into a new the world I see for the
very first time in my life.

I'm open for any suggestions what colours is concerned.

Blessings from Norway
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 22:13:40 -0400
From: "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, "Dharma" <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
Subject: Re: K experience? or......what?
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Hi Dharma,

>You must be very happy to have this contact with your spiritual guide!
>That's the important thing that's happening. Strengthen that as you can.
>Expect more contact with your guide in meditation, be open to hearing that
>voice. When it's more conscious, it won't seem like a dream.

I am feeled with a great deal of joy over this! Thank you for telling me
this.
>
>Unusual sounds are pretty common with K. Nothing to worry about. :)
How about the sightings of black type shadows floating around? Is this part
of the K as well?
>
>Should you answer the phone? Why not, if you can? If you see/hear things
>symbolically in meditation, you might see a phone you could answer. But
>you don't seem to need this kind of symbolic interface to contact your
>guide. You can probably talk directly with your guide much as you did in
>the dream, except that it will be more real and less dream-like.

As I am drifting off into a sleep or just waking up I often will hear a
voice but when I go to focus in on it , I can no longer hear it. Sometimes
I hear a voice that seems more like a thought.....is this one of my guides?
>
>What I've been doing with ringing and tones in my ears is using them in
>meditation; you might try it. Go into meditation, and then focus on the
>tone you hear. Don't think about it or try to do anything else at the same
>time; just rest, breathe, listen to the tone. Get into it, vibrate with
>it, be that tone. One note is a different vibration than another; the
>wave-length is different. (Maybe somebody else can explain that better. :)
>Find that vibration and be there.

I think you explained it quite well and I thank you for this explantion.
>
>Using a tone as a focus for meditation is a good way to do something else
>than think - to meditate without thought without trying to _stop_ the
>thoughts, see? And for me it's a useful substitute for the music I usually
>hear in my head. Opera is glorious, but a simple tone is usually more
>beneficial for meditation. :))

I sometimes can hear music but no radio is on. It is usually a beautiful
sound but when I go to try to hear it better it disappears. I will take you
up on your suggestion above.
>
>Using the tone that's loud in my ear(s) at the moment seems, in general, to
>have good results, to lead me in good directions. I really can't be more
>conclusive than that, except to say that I have NOT had any bad experiences
>from doing this. Why not try it?

Okay I will!
>
>Better still, when you're in contact with your spiritual guide again, ask
>him! :)) Best advice you can get!

Agreed!

In L&L & Understanding,

Katharine
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 22:33:56 EDT
From: CKRESSATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: K experience?or...what?
Message-ID: <99691e73.35e8ba14ATnospamaol.com>>

Katherine wrote that her computer "is doing things completely on its own!"
When Kundalini is active, all kinds of paranormal and other weirdness can
occur in electrical equipment, including battery operated appliances. I've
known of several cases where televisions turn themselves off and on at random.
When my Kundalini was strongest, the people next door to us told us that for
several days in a row, their TV had been turning itself on full blast in the
middle of the night.

Fires are also common occurrences in the vicinity of someone with awakened
Kundalini. The house on the other side of ours burned down the week my
Kundalini rose! Yikes -- my aura seems to extend pretty far. Fortunately,
nobody was hurt. Neither of these neighbors had any idea I was undergoing a
Kundalini awakening.

Katherine also mentions "a ringing noise like a telephone that is not being
answered" that happens "over and over and over again." I've heard of numerous
cases of this phenomena, which often seems related to spirits trying to
contact us. In some cases they have caused actual phones in the home to ring
repeatedly. When answered, nobody seems to be on the line. They also have
been known to leave a series of phantom empty messages on answering machines.

May be that someone (probably on the other side) is trying to send a literal
message to Katherine and is trying to get her attention through the computer
shenanigans and telephone ringing sounds. I would suggest meditating to get a
sense of who it is and what the message might be. Say a prayer for protection
and/or surround yourself with white light first to screen out lower astrals
who may be messing with you.

And pay attention to dreams; the message and source of the message may come
through more clearly there.

Shanti,
El
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 22:33:55 EDT
From: CKRESSATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: K experience?or...what?
Message-ID: <6da88d79.35e8ba13ATnospamaol.com>>

Katherine wrote that her computer "is doing things completely on its own!"
When Kundalini is active, all kinds of paranormal and other weirdness can
occur in electrical equipment, including battery operated appliances. I've
known of several cases where televisions turn themselves off and on at random.
When my Kundalini was strongest, the people next door to us told us that for
several days in a row, their TV had been turning itself on full blast in the
middle of the night.

Fires are also common occurrences in the vicinity of someone with awakened
Kundalini. The house on the other side of ours burned down the week my
Kundalini rose! Yikes -- my aura seems to extend pretty far. Fortunately,
nobody was hurt. Neither of these neighbors had any idea I was undergoing a
Kundalini awakening.

Katherine also mentions "a ringing noise like a telephone that is not being
answered" that happens "over and over and over again." I've heard of numerous
cases of this phenomena, which often seems related to spirits trying to
contact us. In some cases they have caused actual phones in the home to ring
repeatedly. When answered, nobody seems to be on the line. They also have
been known to leave a series of phantom empty messages on answering machines.

May be that someone (probably on the other side) is trying to send a literal
message to Katherine and is trying to get her attention through the computer
shenanigans and telephone ringing sounds. I would suggest meditating to get a
sense of who it is and what the message might be. Say a prayer for protection
and/or surround yourself with white light first to screen out lower astrals
who may be messing with you.

And pay attention to dreams; the message and source of the message may come
through more clearly there.

Shanti,
El

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