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kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #602


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 602

Today's Topics:
  Re: Ego [ "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotm ]
  I never saw an ego i didn't like -) [ "Pure Heart" <pure_heartATnospamhotmail.co ]
  Re: I AM Nirvikalpa [ "Harsh K. Luthar (Harsha)" <hluthar ]
  Re: Cut it out! Re: Something funny [ "Rev Denise L. Koons" <htminATnospamptdpro ]
  Re: Past Enlightenment [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.co ]
  Re: I AM Nirvikalpa [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.co ]
  Re: eden [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
  Dual ity [ trexisATnospamjuno.com (Edward Gurd) ]
  re: Ego [ onarresATnospaminreach.com ]
  Re: tongue curling [ geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com ]
  onarism...was: re: ego [ percyvalATnospamwebtv.net ]
  RE: Something funny - at last! :) [ "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> ]
  Re: onarism...was: re: ego [ onarresATnospaminreach.com ]
  Re: celestine prophecy [ "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
  Re: healing [ "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
  August? [ "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
  Re: detaching (was RE: Emptiness...) [ "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
  Re: detaching (was RE: Emptiness...) [ "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
  Re: Re: Ego [ AfperryATnospamaol.com ]
  RE: Something funny - at last! :) [ Dharma <annfisherATnospamstic.net> ]
  Re: Ego [ ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com ]
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:40:46 PDT
From: "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ego
Message-ID: <19980827214046.18175.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

>Angelique wrote:
>>>>17. .: They believed the serpent.
>>>>18. .: They believed a lie.
>>> The Serpent did not lie..
>>> We never left Eden.. unconditional love does not reject.
>
>And Hudson Jackson II wrote:
>>So, then, why did Adam and Eve get banished from the garden? What's
>>your take?
>
>
>I don't know what Angelique's take is, but my take is that you're a
>born-again fundamentalist, and I wonder what you hope to accomplish on
this
>list. If your goal is to show us the error of our ways, then I suspect
you
>may be sadly disappointed.

If I were a born-again fundamentalist, I surely would not have been on
the list to begin with.

Now, this was to be a logic exercise in explaining why evil exists, not
some imitation of a preacher gone off the deep end. Since it seems a
majority of the people have either been silent or are looking at me as
such, I will cancel the thread here and will no longer be reading any
messages concerning this topic. So don't expect anymore replies from me
on that.

If you will excuse me, I will go and get some coffee because I'm getting
shaky again. . . then I can take on the rest of my msgs.


- Hudson

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Web server (n.): One who gives away nearly invisble
appetizers during the course of a formal dinner.


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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:48:04 PDT
From: "Pure Heart" <pure_heartATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Subject: I never saw an ego i didn't like -)
Message-ID: <19980827214807.12156.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Bravo Paul,

Very astute.

The 'ego' is the note that the causal body (soul) sounds for a life.
(at its highest and most purified level).

The ego is not evil, limited, or anything negative. It is sacred
and worth respect like everything else.

Now, do we as humans get 'unaligned' with the note of our lives?
Yes, of course.

Does that make the mechanism 'bad' ? Nope.

The moral is, don't try to kill the messenger, you'll just get
a dead messenger, and you will be all the further from
enlightenment.

-Kevin

>If it's worth anything I have observed that ego is reborn. If you
>like, it is a great maze construct that is capable of holding water.
>When the water is out of it, you, there is no perception of it
>existing. It doesn't interefere with reality. Then the water, you,
>goes in and fills it up and then reality takes on its flavour. So for
>you it is reborn, not that it always exists in the background waiting
>for you to go back to it. And the reason it seems like it has remained
>there is because of its nature, so constant, such a continuum of
>familiarity, going to it is as if you never left, as again it is the
>illusory counterpart of that characteristic of the eternal.
>
>--
>Paul.
>
>IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
>WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
>E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
>
>

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:49:26 -0400
From: "Harsh K. Luthar (Harsha)" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: I AM Nirvikalpa
Message-ID: <35E5D466.C744E6C9ATnospambryant.edu>

> Harsha: One can talk about Savikalpa Samadhi states as altered states of
> consciousness since the frame of reference is the "normal" waking
> consciousness. Here, even in the higher celestial regions, the triad of the
> seer, the process of seeing, and sight is maintained although at much subtler
> and finer levels of light. When the seer, the process of seeing, and sight
> merge then there is only One. So all frame of reference disappears. There is no
> Seeing here, as Seeing is Being It Self. Nirvikalpa Samadhi reveals the Pure
> Being without obstruction. The nature of that Being which is the Self is
> Fullness and Completion. The Self does not experience existence, It Is
> Existence It Self. The Self does not experience joy, It Is Joy It Self. The
> Self does not experience Awareness, It Is Pure uncontaminated Awareness in
> which the whole of cosmos is reflected. That is why the ancients in trying to
> describe it said it is Sat-Chit-Ananda.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 17:51:41 -0700
From: "Rev Denise L. Koons" <htminATnospamptdprolog.net>
To: "Danijel Turina" <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com>,
 "Mystress Angelique Serpent" <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Cut it out! Re: Something funny - at last! :)
Message-ID: <002b01bdd154$dbde9f20$0129baccATnospamhvnlytch>
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Yes I thank you for that statement and I am glad the list is here for that
purpose and i'm glad I found all of you who have helped me in the last two
days ansering my questions,Rev Koons
-----Original Message-----
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Date: Thursday, August 27, 1998 2:23 PM
Subject: Cut it out! Re: Something funny - at last! :)

>At 07:11 PM 27/08/98 +0200, Danijel Turina wrote:
>>At 20:07 27.08.1998. +0500, cosmic energy wrote:
>>>I am quite ignorant in fact. Will anybody tell whether the following is
in
>>>any way connected with Kundalini matter !!??
>>
>>It is not related to Kundalini matter, it is related to the things K folks
>>consider to be funny. Therefore it _is_ related to K, after all. :P~~~~~
>
> Bullshit Danijel... You know posting pages of jokes and humor is
>absolutely contrary to list guidelines, and remarkably inconsiderate at a
>time when the list bandwidth is already overflowing.
> New List members: K-list has a no jokes, no propaganda policy. Danijel
>knows it well enough too, he's just trying to get my goat. There are plenty
>of places to find humor on the net, and posting it to the K-list is
>strictly Verboten. WE don't have the bandwidth for it, real words from list
>members are what is wanted.
> No jokes, no funny stories, no chain letters, no pages of stuff quoted
>from books, no copied websites, no virus warnings, nothing that has not
>been written by a list member. List member sharing and asking for help is
>first priority.
>
>
>
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 23:58:33 +0200
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Past Enlightenment
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980827235833.00a83c90ATnospammustafa.hempseed.com>
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At 14:29 1998.08.27 PDT, Pure Heart wrote:
>How nice (for me) to see a thread that I agree with completely.
>
>I agree with your analysis completely, and in fact can even answer
>your question about 'what then'.
>
>Its heresy to most all, but my direct knowing (for what its worth)
>says that when the lower man becomes beautiful and in harmony
>with the upper man, that the lower man doesn't cease to exist in
>the great sea at all.
>
>A rose that blooms from the manure will never be lost.
>
>Its our task to be a thing of beauty here as well as on all other
>planes.

Hmmm... I like that perspective, it rings true. When all the compulsive
stuff, the conditioning, all the crap, is gone... what remains is total
beauty. Something to look forward to. :)

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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 00:03:08 +0200
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: I AM Nirvikalpa
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980828000308.00a84bb0ATnospammustafa.hempseed.com>
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At 14:40 1998.08.27 PDT, Pure Heart wrote:
>As long as there is something to 'transcend', you are still deluded.
>
>Samadhi can be the worst trap of all.
>
>A Buddhist would say that pain and pleasure need to be as one.
>
>Not the last word on enlightenment, but a very wise statement.

How about a state of no desires? All motivation gone in the state of total
fulfillment?

-----
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Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:44:02 -0400
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: "Kundalini" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: eden
Message-ID: <009601bdd20c$31145ae0$c7d11fa8ATnospamsharonwe>
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Maureen wrote:
>Does it really matter what kind of food we feed our souls with as long
>as it is nutritional?

Nutritional? I consider dogma as junk food for the soul---a type of
predigested regurgitant for those who lack the courage or even the curiosity
to look within.

Sharon
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:49:27 -0400
From: trexisATnospamjuno.com (Edward Gurd)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Dual ity
Message-ID: <19980827.145019.10934.1.trexisATnospamjuno.com>

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 02:49:20 EDT
From: F19AshATnospamaol.com
To: KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca,
Subject: a question of evil
Message-ID: <176d470b.35e50172ATnospamaol.com>

if people do something bad...then isnt it considered evil or bad then?
Certainly, it is not considered good. Such as murder. I consider murder
evil
dont you? Like murder, evil seems very present on earth, and that is
because
hell is much closer to earth than heaven (i believe). Demons spread evil
and
in turn humans pass it on sometimes i suppose. Dont you agree?
Emily (M)
no.
there is no evil.
only ignorace
humans spread ignorace
God is infinite
my keyboad Broke. cut and paste is sloW.

there is no evil.
only ignorace

 The Duaity, The concept of evil.
DeleteDeleteDelete
>>>
>>>EG
>>>

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:06:54 -0700
From: onarresATnospaminreach.com
To: percyvalATnospamwebtv.net, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: re: Ego
Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980827160654.006e51c0ATnospammail.inreach.com>
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At 01:35 PM 8/27/98 -0400, percyvalATnospamwebtv.net wrote:
>Hudson:
>17. .: They believed the serpent.
>18. .: They believed a lie.

>Mystress:     The Serpent did not lie.. We never left Eden.. unconditional love does not reject.        
>      http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/spirit/eden.htm

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All of you who believe everything in the Bible is the absolute truth, who follow blindly, question nothing, please read no further - delete!!!

>>Hudson: So, then, why did Adam and Eve get banished from the garden? What's your take?

Dor:
Okay Hudson, you asked for it - and here it is: The whole story is a metaphor!

The tree represents the life, the trunk is the cerebral spinal column, the apple is the knowledge and the snake is kundalini -

Rather like calling Jesus Christ... it's Jesus the man who followed the Christ Consciousness, or if you will the Christ path. Maybe you might think of him as Jesus, the Christed instead. Jesus was the first Adam which all appeared at the same time in different locales and different races of man... don't get trapped into the idea that there was just one Adam, and that all men came from him whether they be black, red, white, brown or yellow. Didn't happen that way. He shared the spirit - soul of each one of the Adams created.

The Old Testament is the history of the Jewish people, whom at one time were nomads and gathered data for their book (O.T.) from the various people along their trek. That's why you will find similarities of accounts in many cultures. Sometimes changed a bit to enhance the culture of the people relating the story... we all at one time or another have bragged a bit about our country, family or whatever... that is until we know better and seek only that which is truth.

Did Jesus believe in reincarnation (?) - guess he must have since (a) he was an Essene (b) he was also, first soul Amilius, Adam, Enoch, Melchizedek, Joseph, Joshua, Jeshua.
>
>percy: according to the mythology of Genesis...God said (paraphrased, my bible's not handy):
>
>"now they have tasted from the tree of knowledge of good and evil...if they also eat from the tree of life, they will BECOME LIKE US" (who was God speaking with? who is us? this conversation is very strange for a
>monotheistic deity...)

(1) Now Percy, if you're fully awakened - you gotta know the difference between good and evil - right?

(2) There were other lessor Gods - try reading the Essene material or the Dead Sea Scrolls, and a lot of this will be brought to light. Did the Creator create other Gods, maybe so - after all S/he had a lot of work to do, maybe needed some sub-contractors.

Now comes the backlash from the Christian coalition - have at it K-lites, it doesn't push my buttons one way or the other... I give you my system of belief, if you like it - take it, if not - throw it to the Cosmo, we are each possessed of free will and thought.

We've all been down this path before, pros and cons. Mystress is right, if you want to be chewed up a bit, stick around, if not - cancel the discussion of Bible quotes, meanings etc., we all know who interpreted it. A bunch of people who really didn't speak Old Hebrew anyway, and a phrase was inserted here an there by some well meaning priest who thought it would clarify the meaning to the average person, when the scribe had already changed it by not translating it correctly to begin with...

If you want to continue with spirituality, kundalini, the symptoms, results or whatever, great! If you want to discuss the Bible, there's another place to take it... find it on Spiritweb, there you can discuss the Bible to your heart's content, or until the cows come home, whichever you like. Lotsa luck!

light dor
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:12:49 -0700
From: geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: tongue curling
Message-ID: <19980827.181250.3246.1.Geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com>

>I was wondering if some of the scholars on the list could tell me what
>causes
>(or what is caused by) the tongue cleaving to the palate or the tongue
>curling
>up to the palate.

There is main energy rout called the microcosmic orbit(Taoist) that is
completed when the tongue touches the palate. The energy goes up the
back of the body and down the front( I cut the connecting tissue under my
tongue to make it more comfortable to touch the palate for long periods).


Some people get energy stuck in their heads and they get a headache type
sensation. A cure for this is to touch the tongue to the palate,
circulate the energy up the back and down the front a few times. Then
bring the energy to the navel and store it there. This can be important
with k activity. You don't want to cook your brain.

Blessings,

Geoffrey


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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 19:52:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: percyvalATnospamwebtv.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: onarism...was: re: ego
Message-ID: <18480-35E5F147-3325ATnospammailtod-142.iap.bryant.webtv.net>

onarres: If you want to continue with spirituality, kundalini, the
symptoms, results or whatever, great! If you want to discuss the Bible,
there's another place to take it...

percy: you may not have heard it, but i am speaking of kundalini...the
tree of life is the path of kundalini...eating of it does make us
divine...my post was not off-topic...merely showing that the myth of
Genesis is quite relevant to kundalini...

i thought my point was self-evident...i guess not...i will avoid
expressing any of the anger that your condescending post made me feel,
and just assume that you completely missed what i was trying to say...

john percyval
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 00:58:20 +0100
From: "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: Something funny - at last! :)
Message-ID: <000001bdd216$9225b4a0$46f14dc3ATnospamjb>
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cosmic energy:
 > I am quite ignorant in fact. Will anybody tell whether the following is
in
> any way connected with Kundalini matter !!??

Jan: It is only funny if you are a bit familiar with PC's and the Western
way of "doing business". What IS funny is your invention of Kundalini
matter. Does it have an electrical charge and/or mass? [:>)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:20:17 -0700
From: onarresATnospaminreach.com
To: percyvalATnospamwebtv.net, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: onarism...was: re: ego
Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980827172017.006ef098ATnospammail.inreach.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>percy: you may not have heard it, but i am speaking of kundalini...the tree of life is the path of kundalini...eating of it does make us divine...my post was not off-topic...merely showing that the myth of
>Genesis is quite relevant to kundalini...
>
>i thought my point was self-evident...i guess not...i will avoid expressing any of the anger that your condescending post made me feel, and just assume that you completely missed what i was trying to say...
>
>john percyval
 
Well, Percy, the post was for Hudson as well, not directed entirely your way... I answered your question about others gods, did I not? You asked with whom God was speaking, I tried to give you an answer... and to point you in the direction of book(s) that would further answer your questions.

As for anger, maybe a look see inside of yourself will allow you to see why the anger was and is there. Don't attach to that anger, let it go - and yes, the myth of Genesis is just that, all I did was to expand it a bit... and why.

The reason the post had your name attached to it was because it was the last post that was received and it included dialog from two others, and I did reply to it as such, including Mystress' comment, that of Hudson and then I answered your question to the best of my ability. Had it been Mystress' post or Hudson's it would have been the same, last post received. I didn't miss what you were asking at all, when it came to the last of the post, "Now the backlash from the Christian coalition" it was only for those whom quote the Bible backwards and forwards... dear soul, only if the shoe fits, which in your case I don't think it does.

Light, dor
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 19:03:35 -0400
From: "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: <F19AshATnospamaol.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: celestine prophecy
Message-ID: <000101bdd220$be219420$44e6d5d1ATnospamdefault>
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 Hi Emily,

>HI! Has anyone on this list read or is reading the Celestine Prophecy?

If you like that one you will also like the next one which is called the
Tenth Insight. I enjoyed this one as well but I have been told by many that
they were disappointed by it and felt it lacked truth. I just have to
wonder if they missed the truth? It was not as easy to find it in this
book.....you had to go by what you had learnt from the first book and know
how to read beyond the words.

 ( As we reach the ending of this
>century changes in our world are going to take place and we can see them
>happening already. People are beginning to reach a better state of
>consciousness about God and the world around them. I believe this is esp.

How do you come across that conculsion? I think it was more intitution that
they are talking about.

>shown in that more and more people are studying different religions and are
>become involved with "New Age" activities, which deal with the energy.
Just
>some thoughts to ponder and maybe you can add on to.

What chapter are you on?.........hmmm wish I had't lent out my books
now......the reader may not get to it for many months but I told him that I
had no need for the books for now......I'll have to go strictly by memory.

In L&L & Understanding,

Katharine
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:54:39 -0400
From: "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: healing
Message-ID: <000701bdd220$c5440e40$44e6d5d1ATnospamdefault>
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Hi Paul,

 Can one person bring about a healing in
>another? Can energy be sent? Is "energy" a buzzword?

Do you really want to know or are you looking for another thing to agrue
about? On the chance that you really do what to know.

Yes a person can bring about a healing in another. In truth however any
healer will tell you that it is the person themselves that heals themselfs
with the help of god. The healer is just blessed to be used as a tool.
Yes energy can be sent. Sometimes without knowledge that the person can do
it. I once accidently knocked someone off their chair when they were
responding to a letter from me! Oh I'll tell you she was not the only
person shocked! I have since been more careful about what thoughts are in
my mind when I send a posting out. This happened in a time I was going
through.......lets say inner personnitlies acting out their angers......or I
should say mine. Its all me in the long run and that has been a hard
thing to accept because with acceptance of that I had to take the
responsibility of the action. Energy is just what it is. Energy.

In L&L & Understanding,

Katharine
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:09:58 -0400
From: "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: August?
Message-ID: <000b01bdd220$c8715960$44e6d5d1ATnospamdefault>
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Hi All,

Just getting real curious about this subject that keeps coming up. What
does August have to do with Kundalini? I will be the first to say this has
been a strange month for me but can this really be all connected to the
Kundalini Rising?

In L&L & Understanding,

Katharine
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:34:07 -0400
From: "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: "Mystress Angelique Serpent" <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Cc: "Kyira Korrigan - DTI,MF" <kyira_korriganATnospamdynapro.com>,
 "kundalini-l" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: detaching (was RE: Emptiness...)
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Hi Mystress,

> Let me see if I can explain it... objects and opinions, and feelings.
> They can be separated from each other, and examined separately.

You know a lot of people have tried very hard to get me to understand what
you have just shared with me. I don't know if it is because my head is
fully opened at the moment or if I am in one of those ........duh it was
that simple you idiot mode or what, but it is all clicking in. Perhaps it
is those tingles I have been feeling for days ......and who is blowing cool
air over my head anyways? .....but I feel like a lot of confusion is
leaving me. I have had a lot of wonderful people here and on another list
patiently working with me.......waiting for that moment when I say......Wow
I could of had aV8! only difference is.....I am having the V8! I thank you
for what you have shared with me! I read each word and even more
importantantly it made sense to me! I felt it registering from deep
inside......I heard a voice saying, 'See silly its not all that hard! It
really is simple.....isn't it? " Now surrender Damn it!!! LOL!!! Okay I
get the message! Thanks!!!!!

BTW: I have saved you words to me to reread when I wake up tomorrow and Ms
dought shows up and says......but but but...... must be a good thing to be
over tired.......I am truly understanding what I am reading! No thank you
no test tonight ......maybe next year okay?

In L&L & Understanding,

Katharine
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:58:34 -0400
From: "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: "Pure Heart" <pure_heartATnospamhotmail.com>, <kyira_korriganATnospamdynapro.com>,
 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: detaching (was RE: Emptiness...)
Message-ID: <000801bdd220$c6276960$44e6d5d1ATnospamdefault>
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 charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Kevin,

>The simple insight that you are not your thoughts, feelings,
>emotions or memories will be a good start to your journey.
>
>Hey, loosen up, the show is free, its on 'god'.

Okay I have the message now......thanks......been a good night for
understanding.........now that I am loosing up want to party??? <grin>

I can't say much more simply because finally.......truly I am getting it!!!

In L&L & Understanding,

Katharine
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:27:08 EDT
From: AfperryATnospamaol.com
To: hjackson2ATnospamHOTMAIL.COM
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Re: Ego
Message-ID: <37fd36cf.35e6076cATnospamaol.com>>

Dear Hudson,
In a message dated 27/8/98 10:49:15 pm, you wrote:

>Read Revelation's last chapters.

I am aware of them but I prefer the Sermon on the Mount. You might like to try
'Jnana Yoga' by Swami Vivekananda, it will be available through Amazon.

There's a great deal in the Bible that cannot be understood simply at the
exoteric level. It is a book of enormous wisdom but we demean it if we focus
only on its superficiality, and the same applies to all the great scriptures.

God bless,
Alan
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:04:11 -0500
From: Dharma <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: Something funny - at last! :)
Message-Id: <l03010d00b20bbefdd6cdATnospam[207.71.50.165]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>cosmic energy:
> > I am quite ignorant in fact. Will anybody tell whether the following is
>in
>> any way connected with Kundalini matter !!??
>
>Jan: It is only funny if you are a bit familiar with PC's and the Western
>way of "doing business". What IS funny is your invention of Kundalini
>matter. Does it have an electrical charge and/or mass? [:>)

:))))))))))))))) ROTFLMAO :)))))))))))) That's the funniest thing I've
heard today!! :))))))
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:05:49 EDT
From: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ego
Message-ID: <8f8d80dd.35e6107dATnospamaol.com>>

In a message dated 8/27/98 2:42:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, AfperryATnospamaol.com
writes:

Hudson:>And when I find Adam, I'm going to give him a kick somewhere.
 
 Alan: >Is this something you have learnt from Christ, perhaps? Strange, I
don't
 recall this in the New Testament. You seem to be rather keen on punishment
and
 violence; perhaps you need to discuss this privately with our dear List
 Mystress. Once again, my friend, your understanding of Christianity is very
different
from mine........>>

My Oh My Alan, cynical aren't we? When I read Hudson's post, I thought this
last line was hilarious -- it was obviously written for humour and I had
written him off-list to say LOL!

Wow perceptions.... still amaze me.

(Rubbing your shoulders to get allll that tension out...)
Much Love,
xxxtg

* Life is not a problem to be solved, but a game to be played *

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