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1998/08/12 11:53
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #562


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 562

Today's Topics:
  Re: notes and comments [ "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.c ]
  Re: the wizard [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: K sensitivities [ John Heaton <CttlemanATnospampsbnewton.com ]
  Re: introduce myself [ cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in> ]
  Re: A burning question [ cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in> ]
  Re: How to say? [ cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in> ]
  Re: A burning question [ cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in> ]
  Re: Lingering Spirit [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
  Re: A burning question [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: K sensitivities [ GISLENNEATnospamaol.com ]
  re: Lingering Spirit [ melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu ]
  Re: Lingering Spirit [ GISLENNEATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: Shakti Masters [ "E.E.S." <ganglareATnospamgte.net> ]
  AD: REFINANCING NO PROBLEM! [ debtfreeATnospamcyber-host.net ]
  Re: Shakti Masters [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
  Re: Lingering Spirit [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: How to say? [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 06:36:39 PDT
From: "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.com>
To: j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: notes and comments
Message-ID: <19980812133640.6033.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Oh the sensitivity. My very struggle in work has been to find a way to
give my knowledge without perpetuating the suffering inherent in its
traditions. My eyes also, sting with my own overwhelming understanding
of the enormity of sadness and pain all around me (this includes plants,
people, air, water, rocks). And yet it does seem to be balanced by
periods of joy, during which I am able to reaffirm that this path, even
with its insistent call to see the full spectrum of sensation and
energy, will provide what we need, and then the pain seems like growth,
requiring compassion we might otherwise forget. Thank you for
sharing... with love, katrina

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>Hey there,
>
>i have talked with my teachers about this, but it still bogs me down
>somewhat.
>
>i can sense at the perifery of awareness...a great orchestra off-key,
>and its very very very sad.
>
>my last foray into the woods for a week brought this to the full force
>of my attention and i cried like a water pump. at the time, it forced
>energy awareness to a level that it was hard staying around the
>temple..i was that raw.
>
>the comments about sadhana are correct. once in, the only way out is
>through. doesnt matter if ur path is buddhist or vedantic or whatever.
>this lady has a ton of buddhist karma.
>
>Lama Lodu Rinpoche recently said something like 'a bodhisattva is more
>sensitive, like your eyes are more sensitive to dust. Your hands now,
>they could handle dust all along, but not your eyes. The bodhisattva
>becomes aware of suffering like an eye of dust. it cannot be ignored.'
>
>Chenrezi is always crying...so was born the Mother of the Buddhas, Arya
>Tara.
>
>i think this senstivity is part of the purifying process. you just cant
>stand to make more suffering, of your own hand or at the hand of
>another.
>
>noticed when a swarm of mosquitoes comes at me, i blow them away, shoo
>them, tolerate them, but i dont ever ever slap them anymore.
>
>enuf rambling,
>
>--janpa
>
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 09:53:07 EDT
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: dturinaATnospamhempseed.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: the wizard
Message-ID: <8222644f.35d19e44ATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 8/8/1998 11:22:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
dturinaATnospamhempseed.com writes:

<< You are exceptionally brilliant and funny, as are Angelique, Tg and
 >Lobster, Harsha is an unending source of good humor, as is "Delirium." And
 >you all have very deep wells of compassion. Perhaps it is the list itself
 >which is my guru! >>

Harsha (the Well of Compassion plus good humor): Could you not have saved
yourself some time and money by simply making an astral trip to India Danijel?
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 09:16:52 -0500
From: John Heaton <CttlemanATnospampsbnewton.com>
To: rogrimeATnospamibm.net
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: K sensitivities
Message-ID: <35D1A3D3.ED2BDFC2ATnospampsbnewton.com>

Ron Grimes wrote:

> Anurag Goel wrote:
>
> > Janpa , i too think that sensitivity is a part of kundalini. I have become
> > sensitive to red chillis can't tolerate even a bit of it. Earlier I used
> > to feel kind of intoxicated after a cup of coffee.
>
> But I think even beyond food, I have noticed that I can no longer tolerate the thoughts of
> cruelty and violence. This means that the action movies I used to enjoy I cannot watch any
> longer. I find that it greatly disturbs me to see our society's love affair with violence,
> whether that be in real life or just in the movies. There is a verse that states something
> to the effect that God cannot dwell in an unclean body. I now understand that the greatest
> "uncleanness" comes from what we choose to watch or listen to. Much of the non-sense our
> society thrives on is greatly offensive to our spirits.
>
> - Ron

 I used to feel the same way Ron. But as I go along, I find that for myself, this is
not sensitivity but intolerance.

 What better test of our 'spiritual marrow' than to find unconditional love for every
aspect of the "wrongs" you listed above?? What better way to purge ourselves of our own
judgements, condemnations, hatreds and prejudices than to accept fully that everything is as
it should be right NOW?

 As Mystress is always saying, Goddess has it handled....I 'spose the rest is up to
us. :)

John
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:31:32 +0500
From: cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in>
To: Andrew Alcott Shaver <ashaverATnospamumich.edu>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: introduce myself
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980812153132.0069a794ATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Sensing aura reveals that the Kundalini is awakened. Your aura is an
uniform 5 inches.If you continue in this path, there is a possibility that
you become clairvoyant.The main thing you have to keep under check is your
overreactive nature.Calculate well before you react. Increased aura of
amygdala part of the brain, comparing to cerebral cortex, indicates this.

Keep an eye on this wonderful board of kundalini, you will find answer to
all questions which you may like to raise from time to time.Keep informing
your experiences to this board, so that many young friends seeking
knowledge may derive benefit.Wherever you are, keep working for Universal
Harmony and you will find that nothing prevents you from further
development in any field you like.
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At 10:35 PM 8/9/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi, my name is Andy and I'm 30. I have been doing
>bodywork completely on my own for about 5 years now.
>I don't know if "kundalini" is what I deal with,
>I just strive to feel better and sane every day.
>This is a fascinating opportunity to communicate!
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:02:14 +0500
From: cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in>
To: rogrimeATnospamibm.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: A burning question
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980812110214.0069a794ATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

With due respect, cause of your wife reaching new level is her imbalance in
sex chakra . Your aura size is an uniform 4 inches whereas her aura is
balanced 5 inches, except at sex and root, where it is 10 inches and 12
respectively. Once balanced , she will be normal. Awakened Kundalini is not
the cause, imbalance is the cause.

Kundalini awakening in a balanced body takes one to heights,brings silence
showing path to indepth knowledge and wisdom.

Several Eastern friends reached West with little knowledge and started
earning attracting Western friends who comparatively remain busy in
materialistic life.For seeking peace they reach such Easterners for help
since they have heard of Eastern philosophy and spiritual knowledge. Surely
it is not incorrect, but it is also true that all are not horses . Some
people, when initiated in Reiki or if their Kundalini is awakened without
body cleansing , they feel different kind of lower level of sensation and
assume that they have become spiritual overnight. Since material wealth is
not the problem, many of them write books,construct websites and open
centres charging heavy fees for showing way to the Heaven allowing every
Tom & Harry, to discuss and thus the highest point of discussion comes in
lowest range and at times becomes a subject of mockery. Doesn't matter.
This way we come across wonderful friends who have really attained. Their
wisdom clearly reflects in their letters. We got enriched with their
knowledge and have preserved their letters to enlighten others.
with profound love and respect to all.
Ms.Seema
college student
P.S. In this context letter of Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net> deserves due
attention.
   
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At 07:38 PM 8/10/98 -0600, you wrote:
>freda larson wrote:
As a female K-lister I think it would be nice to make a bloody issue of
this ! There seems to be precious little for we women ..... bonkin' or no
bonkin' freda
>
ROFL... Love the honesty of your e-mail. Speaking to this issue, I have had
an observation and a question that I dared not ask previously for several
obvious reasons, but since the issue has been opened, here goes...
>
Since my own K awakening in this life, and as the evolution of that energy
increases, I have noticed that my wife's orgasms continue to reach new
levels, as well as do her mystical states of mind during them. Any like
observations by fellow Kundalites?
Thanks, Ron Grimes
 
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:31:26 +0500
From: cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in>
To: Marybeth Gottshall <kmgATnospamtaconic.net>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: How to say?
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980812153126.0069786cATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

No language in the world is perfect. There are 45 alphabets in Hindi and
you will not find their equivalent either in English or German or Arabic or
anyother language .Similarly alphabets of other languages do not have an
equivalent in Hindi . Even if we learn a foreign language , it gets
difficult to twist the tongue as required, being habit from birth.
So if one cannot pronunce the word 'Kundalini" properly, how does it
matter. Yes, in 'mantra' the phoenetic pronounciation must be correct
otherwise the sound waves produced may have a different or no effect .

Now will some friends inform the positive effects that Kundalini awakening
brought in their day- to-day life.

 Ms. Seema
I yr Student of Psychology
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At 06:45 PM 8/7/98 -0500, you wrote:
Hi, Kat-You said:
I have trouble with words. So I need to ask. How does one say the word
>>Kundalini? Keep in mind this is how I would expect words to be
spelt.....ketchup .......I would spell it catch up It will be interesting
to see how many varieties you get. Here's mine>Koon duh LEE knee
Love Marybeth
 
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 10:42:51 +0500
From: cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in>
To: Marybeth Gottshall <kmgATnospamtaconic.net>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: A burning question
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980812104251.0069a794ATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Sublimation brings bliss and supression - havoc.Your aura is balanced 3
inches except at sex and root chakr where it shows above 8 inches. It has
been noticed that where such an imbalance is present, urge increases till
imbalance is not corrected either by using sublimitation technique or
having continuous sex till getting exhausted and depleted, forgetting even
word - sex. We all are free to choose our path.

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At 05:02 PM 8/8/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi, K-listers:
>
>I have a topic that I'd like to open up for discussion, that I haven't
>really seen discussed since I joined this list about 2-1/2 months ago.
>Perhaps it has been discussed ad infinitum in the past, but not lately. I
>find this surprising since it is at the root (no pun intended) of the
>Kundalini experience. The topic is (ahem). . . well, er... um... sex.
>And celibacy.
>
>>From much that I have read, it appears that Kundalini is regarded as a
>transformation of sexual energy. But there are a differing views about
>whether one should remain celibate while Kundalini is in the process of
>arising, or whether moderate sex is acceptable. Also, many of the
>writings refer to the "retention of seed" for men, but what about for
>women? How does this translate? I know that there are tantric sexual
>practices that are used for the awakening of Kundalini, but again, what I
>have read seems to be more focused on the male aspect of the practice.
>
>My own Kundalini awakening happened after an eight month period of
>celibacy. Any input from anyone else on this? (again, no pun intended). I
>am interested in how list members approach this somewhat personal matter.
>Although, I can see where one might not want everyone on the list to know
>their sexual practices. Hmmmm...... Is this question in bad form,
>Mystress?
>
>Any good reading on this topic?
>
>Marybeth
>
>
>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 09:37:09 -0500
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: nancyATnospamwtp.net
Cc: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Lingering Spirit
Message-Id: <l03010d05b1f7553428b5ATnospam[207.71.50.225]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

nancyATnospamwtp.net wrote:

>...I have a friend who sees disembodied spirits. She doesn't mind
>any of them except this one who was with the house she moved into. The
>guy she sees killed himself in the house, and she says he's just not
>very nice. He disrupts things, makes noises, doesn't follow the "rules"
>the others follow.
>
>I told her last week that perhaps sage would clear out the energy of
>him. And that maybe she needed to ask him to leave. We've planned to do
>this tonight.
>
>Last night I had a dream where this spirit started attacking me.
>snip<
>This morning, it dawned on me that we have been taking the wrong tact.
>Perhaps we need to ask this spirit to leave, but somehow we need to send
>him off with love.
>
>Does anyone have any ideas on how to do this? I'm a little troubled by
>this dream and don't want to recreate this in life.

Hans Holzer used to do this kind of work. He always took a trance medium
with him, often used the English witch Sybil Leek. The medium would make
contact, and then Holzer could speak to the ghost, as the ghost spoke
through the medium. In one case where the ghost was known to be violent,
Holzer first tied the medium securely in a chair so that no harm would come
to her or others.

Holzer said the ghost is always disturbed by what happened at the end of
his life. He often doesn't realize that he has died, but he stays around
the same place because he's obsessed with the thoughts and events that
occurred. He may want to finish what he was doing, or he may want to make
amends in some way.

What Holzer did was essentially psycholoical counselling. He explained
that the ghost had died and that this was not the place where he should be
now, that past matters were far in the past and should be left behind. He
encouraged the ghost to go into the light, to where he should be and where
he could find everything he needed. Holzer wrote a book on this, which you
could probably find in the library or in the bookstores if it's still in
print.

If your friend has contact with the ghost and you two are not afraid, you
could talk to him in this way and send him into the light. If you're
afraid, it would probably be better to look for someone else who is used to
doing such work. :)

Good luck!

Love,
Ann
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 10:45:15 EDT
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in, kmgATnospamtaconic.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: A burning question
Message-ID: <d288a88.35d1aa7cATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 8/12/1998 7:31:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in writes:

<< Sublimation brings bliss and supression - havoc. >>

Harsha: The following article on the Web, based on my own experience and
background, may be helpful for those interested in Kundalini awakening in the
context of sensuality and Self-Realization. It contains important cautions
about meditation and pranayama which may be useful.

The Spiritual Experience and the Awakening of
>Kundalini Shakti in Tantra Yoga
>http://www.telebyte.nl/~frans/kundalini/harsh.html

Here is some Shakti inspired poetry about the Goddess and enlightenment.

http://www.telebyte.nl/~frans/kundalini/poetry.html
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 10:55:14 EDT
From: GISLENNEATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: K sensitivities
Message-ID: <8dbd046f.35d1acd3ATnospamaol.com>

Hi there Ron
   I just read your post where you write >>>>
But I think even beyond food, I have noticed that I can no longer tolerate the
thoughts of
cruelty and violence. This means that the action movies I used to enjoy I
cannot watch any
longer. I find that it greatly disturbs me to see our society's love affair
with violence,
whether that be in real life or just in the movies.>>>>>>>>>>

  I too am feeling the same way, this has been happening for months now but
now the feeling is getting stronger!! I was trying to watch "Fallen" the other
day and I couldn't , i felt my body getting tensed up and I had to leave the
room or cover my eyes... till i finally said to myself "what the heck is going
on with me, these movies are too crazy, so filled with hate and violence" So i
changed the channel and watched "Home alone 3" which almost did the same thing
to me.. till it made me laugh. I also feel like I can't go outside because of
all the violence as well, I see things with a deeper meaning and I cry ...I
can't even see a simple accident I cry..
   Life is deep and beggining to get deeper!!
 love and Light..Gis
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 10:55:10 -0400
From: melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu
To: nancyATnospamwtp.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: re: Lingering Spirit
Message-Id: <l03130300b1f7581cb0b1ATnospam[198.28.38.107]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi Nancy--
 Thanks for asking such a great question. Someone described her way
of moving spirits back to light on the list in late spring or early summer
of this year. It might be a scary technique because it was a sort of
tonglen variation where she sort of passed the entity through herself to
give it love energy to propel it safetly to the light. If you can find her
post in the archives, maybe you can email her directly -- I'm not sure, but
I *think* it was Magne Ana.
 I'm interested in the answers to your question. If you get any
really good descriptive techniques will you please share them with me? I
cleansed places where I was living in the past using sage, but back then I
didn't know to send them to the light. I just told all the negative
energies to leave and invited positive loving helpful nurturing ones to
come in and sort of posted mental boundaries the negative ones were to stay
out of -- in retrospect it seems very bossy and self-centered but it seemed
to work. I guess you know that you have to open doors and windows while
saging to give them an easy way out.
 Once I forgot to open anything. I was loudly claiming my space and
tossing out the unwanted energy when suddenly the storm door flew open and
slammed shut. My husbands jaw dropped! All I could do was laugh.
 If I were going to cleanse a space today I'd sage, and visualize
all the smoke drifing up, out of the house, to the brightest whitest light
full of incredible love like the sacred heart itself. I'd also then
magnetize the smoke with an irresistable positive charge. I'd then
instruct any energies that weren't loving, creative and healing to attach
to the smoke and drift up into the light. In addition I'd instruct the
negative energies that the smoke was irrisistably charged to draw them into
its comfort, nurturing and love. Then I'd open the house and begin saging,
seeing all the while those elements that need to leave being drawn in,
carried up and welcomed home by the source of eternal love in the universe.
It sits better with me now than just tossing them into the street ...
--signalfire

When you get what you want
you never want it again.
Go on take everything,
take everything,
I want you to.
Go on take everything,
take everything,
I dare you to.
 --Hole
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:01:09 EDT
From: GISLENNEATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Lingering Spirit
Message-ID: <ad1d66c8.35d1ae36ATnospamaol.com>

Hi nancy
   This thought just came to mind, light some white candles.. burn sage and
picture a white light coming from heaven, ask the spirit to go into the white
light and for his soul to be healed and for him to find love, the love that
comes from God..tell him to go in peace and love then pray for his soul to get
closer to the plane that is God and for his soul to feel and recieve the love
that he needs.
  His soul needs healing thats all. he is still living in the hell he was
living in on earth.
For him this is normal so he is afraid of leaving.
   Love and Light.Gis
  
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 10:08:55 -0500
From: "E.E.S." <ganglareATnospamgte.net>
To: "Antoine" <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>, "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>,
 "Anurag Goel" <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>,
 "HMT" <hyperATnospamhmt.com>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Shakti Masters
Message-ID: <01bdc603$1f8d5700$09eb2599ATnospambenitasc>
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset="iso-8859-1"

Dear Antoine,

You are so right! In my journey to self-enlightenment, I have started on
the breathing exercises (cleansing, working to remove blocks). I feel that
before I awaken my K I wanted to be properly prepared. I read somewhere
that if you are not, it can cause a lot of problems. In doing my breathing
exercises, I have noticed a big change in my personality. It really helps!

Benita

-----Original Message-----
From: Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: Kat <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>; Anurag Goel
<anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>; HMT <hyperATnospamhmt.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 11, 1998 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Shakti Masters

>Hello Katherine,
>
>>># If given in much excess it can even explode a inidividual in to
>>> fragments.Guru gives as much as a disciple can handle it.
>>
>>Could you explain this to me a little bit further? How can you be sure
>that
>>a individual is in fragments to this reason and not for the reason of
>>MPD?(Mulitiple Personility Disorder) Has a new name now but I am not sure
>>what it is.
>
>It has been said, also:
>> In fact, the ancients warned that K going up the left channel can lead to
>insanity, and K
>> going up the right channel can cause physical damage.
>
>The left and right channel can symbolise two general tendacies we have to
>"evolve" around the central balanced path. One path being to look/identifie
>to much with sky energy, male energy, yang, Shiva polarity. The other path
>to identify ourselves too much to the earth, female, yin, Shakti polarity
in
>us.
>
>I don't beleive that trying to find a reason why, as an individual, one
>tends towards one side or the other will help as much, as to learn - how to
>learn - to look for the central balance as the k flow grows "bigger" and
>"bigger".
>
>Working towards balance may be the hardest part, for we tend to find it
>***BORING***, at first. I wonder if MPD comes from wanting to distract
>oneself from oneself, as so many other disorder?...
>
>Some find breathing boring, they don't know how much they really miss...
>
>Antoine
>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 06:44:54
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:42:29 -0400
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Shakti Masters
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Hi,

I believe this is true. Our cellular memory persists---and not just from
childhood. It can replicate the conditions which cause chronic illness,
pain, depression, and so on.

But there is a way to short-circuit the pattern. Here's a website some of
you might find interesting:

  http://www.path-found.com/Index.htm

The URL takes you to Dr. Ed Martin's site. He is the founder of a system
called Cell Command Hypnotherapy. I just had a session with one of his
students last week, and I am very impressed.

Sharon
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>Have to put MHO in here, as Guy and I have found that addressing what
>has happened in the past actually provides much of the fodder for change
>and awakening in the present. When we "drop" the past intellectually,
>we do nothing to address the cellular storage of the experience. Thus,
>whatever state we were in when the event occurred stays with us
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 12:46:57 EDT
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu, nancyATnospamwtp.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Lingering Spirit
Message-ID: <4875f3ba.35d1c702ATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 8/12/1998 8:00:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu writes:

 When you get what you want
 you never want it again.
 Go on take everything,
 take everything,
 I want you to.
 Go on take everything,
 take everything,
 I dare you to.
  --Hole >>

When you get what you want
you will want something else
Go ahead and see for yourself
the truth of this until you are exhausted
Give up everything
Dare yourself
Go on giving
and finally give yourself up!
Can you do it?
Here God Smiles.

>From the love songs of Harsha
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 21:37:25 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in>
cc: Marybeth Gottshall <kmgATnospamtaconic.net>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com,
 kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: How to say?
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yes very true seema wat u said about the mantra. Even kundalini word
itself is a mantra. Wat do u say?
 
Seema i think one can write any sound in devanagri script.

Glow on face and sparkle in eyes. Don't have worry abt common cold,mild
fever, or cuts. Can feel cuts healing when in meditation. balanced mind.

L &L
Anurag

On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, cosmic energy wrote:

> No language in the world is perfect. There are 45 alphabets in Hindi and
> you will not find their equivalent either in English or German or Arabic or
> anyother language .Similarly alphabets of other languages do not have an
> equivalent in Hindi . Even if we learn a foreign language , it gets
> difficult to twist the tongue as required, being habit from birth.
> So if one cannot pronunce the word 'Kundalini" properly, how does it
> matter. Yes, in 'mantra' the phoenetic pronounciation must be correct
> otherwise the sound waves produced may have a different or no effect .
>
> Now will some friends inform the positive effects that Kundalini awakening
> brought in their day- to-day life.
>
> Ms. Seema
> I yr Student of Psychology
> ----------------------------------------------------------------

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