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kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #534


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 534

Today's Topics:
  Re: Planting a Seed [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Re: As Promised [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Re: As Promised [ "jhill" <jhillATnospamsierra.net> ]
  Re: prayer? [ ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com ]
  prayer and the "least of these" [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ]
  digest address [ fredaannATnospamjuno.com (freda larson) ]
  Re: prayer? [ "THOMAS SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodi ]
  RE: As Promised [ "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> ]
  First meditation [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
  RE: prayer? [ "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> ]
  God=Nothing? [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
  Re: First meditation [ Wonderer <Mrtn74AATnospamprodigy.com> ]
  Re: love for all that is [ Jody Randolph <randolphATnospammail.usmo.c ]
  RE: prayer? [ AfperryATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: prayer? [ "Larry Schmitz" <taniaATnospamcentroin.com ]
  RE: As Promised [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Re: God=Nothing? [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:35:14 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: nancyATnospamwtp.net
Cc: kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Planting a Seed
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At 08:14 AM 24/07/98 -0600, nancy wrote:
>Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>> You cannot forsee all of the ripples that will spread out in the
>> hologram from your act. <...>But, Goddess can see the big picture. So
can your Angels.
>
>Sometimes I feel like my angels are just amused at the whole process.
"Here she
>goes again, asking for this when she should have been asking for that.
Won't she
>ever learn? Oh well!"
      so, ask them for what they think you need, and stop thinking for
yourself.
>
>I don't think I have been saying "do it anyways." I think I have been saying,
>"No, this is not a good idea." But the desire still remains.

  Desire is a formless thing: it is not tangible. Being intangible, it
cannot really be slaked by physical manifestations of form, eh? So you
remain unsatisfied.
   Once the donkey gets his teeth into the carrot, the carrot and stick act
is over. Donkey only keeps moving so long as the carrot is in sight, but
just out of reach.
 Thoughts of Wanting create experiences of wanting. Wanting keeps the
carrots out of reach. Yet the grass by the roadside would feed his hunger
better, if he only stopped wanting the carrot. Goddess is in all that is,
but we chase after her more in some forms than others.
   Goddess leads me around with carrots of temptation, too.. and I have
learned that they are illusion, transient as butterflies.. but they get me
going to where I need to be. Fun game.
  We are the transmitters of thought, not it's origin. Follow your bliss.
Inspiration comes from Goddess.
  Wanna taste of carrot? Eat your perceptions. Taste the invisible lemon.
(whazzat mean?)
  Desire is intangible. That which satisfies desire is also intangible. It
is all thought and feeling. You run after it, coz wanting is thinking you
don't have it. But you have all of your feelings.. feelings don't come from
things, they come from you.
>> ALWAYS add: "or something even better, for the good of all and harm to
>> none, as Goddess wills." onto the end of any prayer, spell, visualization
>> or request that you do.
>That's fine to say, but I've found difficult to do. Even if I say those
words, my
>emotion rests in my desire.

  And in your fear, to grab what you desire lest others be hurt.. you
cannot control your own feelings, yet you believe you control the feelings
of others. This is illusion. The fear that keeps the book away from the
bump. Whack it.
  Take it from a pro Domina Shaktipat Mystress witch. Free will, Is. We
choose our feelings.

  Bargaining with the universe, (I'll feel good when...) only postpones
satisfaction.
  Satisfaction comes of counting your blessings. Not from wanting.
  So instead of asking angels for tangible things, ask them for feelings..
ask for your desires to be satisfied in a way that is formless, and in your
highest good. Thank them in advance.
  You may not get what you want, but you will always get what you need.

>
>I want what I want but know that
>maybe I should temper my selfish desires with others' needs and wants. Yet
the
>feeling remains. Mixed messages results in discontent.

  No, it's circular. Do you deserve to follow your bliss? Can you give
satisfaction that you do not possess yourself? If you dunno what it is you
need, how can you be so sure you know what those around you need? Mebbie
they just need a whack, that you are afraid to give them. Because you don't
want to hurt them, or coz you don't wanna tarnish your self image as a kind
person who does not whack bumps? Why are you trying to follow someone
else's bliss? Are you giving your best to them, if your heart is somewhere
else? Is that more honest and ethical than following your feelings?
   You know all the answers, you are just scared of change.
>
>Anyone have something to whack this bump with?
>
>Nancy
   Just a prayer: Limitless manifestation and unconditional love will
always find a better way for Me to get everything I need, than I can come
up with, with my fears, limitations and doubts. I follow my bliss, that is
the carrot of my joy, and let Goddess handle the rest.
 Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:00:08 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Kat" <KCliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: As Promised
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980724220008.00c02a10ATnospammail.fantasycorp.com>
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  Interesting story, Kat.. pretty classic.

At 04:09 PM 24/07/98 -0400, Kat wrote:
>Hi All,
 Soon after I started
>to paint, my thrist for knowledge on religion began to become very strong.
>I began meditation and learning about crystals.
  Creative energy loves creative expression. Art therapy is a Good way to
release excess K.

> It was around this time
>that I started to have a great deal of headaches and the doctor had two
>different cat scans done on me. In both cases I had very strong reactions
>to the dye that they use.
  Or to the energy of the rays.. Some Kundalites are sensitive to all kinds
of weird energy that other folks don't feel. I wouldn't suggest trying to
tell that to your doc, tho..

> So far so good.......then I made the mistake of playing with
>me root chakra incorrectly.
  No mistakes. Divine guidance behind the scenes.

>It was while I was staying in his home that things really went strange.
>Suddenly I was loosing track of time and could not remember what I did
>within that time.
  At first, it is hard to bring the memories back from the time spent in a
higher vibration. As the vibration of the body rises, it gets easier.

> <..> but usually it is not
>good news that I am getting and I cannot stop what ever it is that is going
>to be happening and that annoys me. Why be given a gift like this and not
>be able to help people avoid bad things?
  Hmmm.. been there.. it is so you can prepare yourself emotionally. So you
are no in shock so much as the unaware, are so are more composed to help
them past their grief, with tales of fate and destiny.

> My ability for hearing spirits
>voices was thought to be a form of MPD.
   I have done a tiny bit of work integrating multiples.. I know of one
person who seems to think his body is supposed to be a halfway house for
stuck spooks. At least, that is what they have persuaded him.

>For very good reason I might add.
>These personilities will work through me sometimes and cause a lot of havic.
>It is not all bad however as there seems to be some personilities that are
>very knowledgeable in the way of enlightenment. The problem is the ones
>that cause the havic never ask for permission to enter me. The Enlightened
>ones will.
   Well, Free Will is law. Ask the enlightened ones to protect you from
those not. I have a standing agreement with my guardian angels, not to
allow me to contact any spirit who is not in my highest good. So I am never
haunted, and if a spook shows up, I know the Angels have let it thru so I
can send it into the light.
   Send them all into the light.. if they are of the light in the first
place, then they won't mind the trip, and will come back after. If they are
not, then they probably won't come back ever.

> Unfortuntly this role playing caused the breakup of me and my
>mate. He could take it no longer as he was loosing a lot of sleep and felt
>he had to spend to much time with me.
   Sounds like an un supportive dweeb... yer better off. :)

>what do you think? Is this the Kundalini rising?
   Fer sure. You will find balance in learning to get grounded. You are a
natural telekinetic, so it is important that you learn some control over
your energy and emotions, learn to find detachment.

 The grounding visualization for awakening Kundalini is at
     http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/ground.htm
  Please visit this page when you have 20 minutes to relax
and do the meditation, as the page is "charged" with Shakti
and keyed to be released by your free will choice to visit the page.
      Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:10:55 -0700
From: "jhill" <jhillATnospamsierra.net>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: As Promised
Message-ID: <000701bdb78a$71c5cc00$1bec87cfATnospamjhill.sierra.net>
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Hi, how do you go about getting auric photos? I've heard of it, but does
one have to have special equipment? Jennifer
-----Original Message-----
From: jb <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>
To: K. list <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Date: Friday, July 24, 1998 6:36 PM
Subject: RE: As Promised

>Katharine wrote:
><big snip>
>> I
>> saw a Physic
>> recently he tells me there is a lot of purple in my aura......What does
>> purple mean? He also saw the depression that is around me and
>> has given me
>> some keys to work with that are helping.
>
>Jan:
>Violet shows spiritual transformation, acceptance, sensivity and intuition.
>Clear and pure violet shows a mix of selfless love and self-surrender. Soft
>lilac means love for the immaterial, the search for magical/mystical
>solutions. Reddish violet shows love to others. To be sure, have some
>aura-photos made. To my experience, they are reliable.
>
>
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 02:11:33 EDT
From: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com
To: trexisATnospamjuno.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: prayer?
Message-ID: <701a6188.35b9771aATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 98-07-24 23:50:26 EDT, you write:

<< Doesn't the word pray literally mean ask or
 ask for?
  >>

I see prayer moreso for ourself rather than others. A true prayer (IMHO)
would be, "Dear God, heal my mind of these thoughts of (guilt, fear, illness,
sadness, etc.)" or 'heal my mind of my thinking I am limitless or powerless
(or stupid or poor or....)... "Dear God, help me to see that all my needs are
already met."

The problem is not *out there*, but inside our own wrong thinking that we are
not already whole, safe and complete. This also goes for when we think others
are 'wrong' or whatever judgement we are putting on them. It is our
responsibility to ask for the 'change of mind' that will allow miracles to
occur in our life.

As you can see, this form of prayer is not asking us to change anything, other
than our mind, our wrong thinking that we, or others, are in lack.

xxxtg
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 06:56:38 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: prayer and the "least of these"
Message-ID: <35B981A6.733211BBATnospammhonline.net>

Greetings,

Prayer is a spiritual technique which combines the esoteric sciences of
sound and invocation to create thought forms on the inner planes.

And on the outer planes,
"there,but for the grace of God, go I",,?????

     rather...

  there go I !!!!!
This is compassion. This is love in action.Known as Service.

Blessings to Norway.

Namaste~,

+ Maureen
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:55:51 EDT
From: fredaannATnospamjuno.com (freda larson)
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: digest address
Message-ID: <19980725.045948.5311.0.fredaannATnospamjuno.com>

sorry list,
I managed to kill ALL info in my puter,
at this time I can only access this freebie mail ... and I AM tickled
pink I got this up and running : )
could someone send me the digest subscription info?
suffering from internet withdrawal...
thanks,.
freda

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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:15:23 -0400
From: "THOMAS SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodigy.net>
To: <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com>, <trexisATnospamjuno.com>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: prayer?
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xxxtg wrote:

> A true prayer (IMHO) would be, "Dear God, heal my mind of these >thoughts
of (guilt, fear, illness, sadness, etc.)" or 'heal my mind of >my thinking
I am limitless or powerless (or stupid or poor or....)... >"Dear God, help
me to see that all my needs are already met."

Snip....

Affirmations do not work if they are merely statements of what you want to
be true. Affirmations work only when they are statements of something you
already know to be true.The best so-called affirmation is a statement of
gratitude and appreciation.

"Thank you, God, for bringing me success in my life."

Now, that idea, thought, spoken, and acted upon, produces wonderful
results - when it comes from true knowing; not from an attempt to produce
results, but from an awareness that results have already been produced.

Jesus had such clarity. Before every miracle, He thanked God in advance for
its deliverance. It never occured to Him not to be grateful,
because it never occurred to Him that what He declared would not happen. The
thought never entered His mind. So sure was He of Who He Was and of His
relationship to God that His every thought, word, and deed reflected his
awareness - just as your thoughts, words, and deeds reflect yours.....If,
now, there is something you choose to experience in your life, do not "want"
it - choose it.

Really. Choose it FULLY, not half-heartly.

Namaste'
Tom
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 14:40:51 +0100
From: "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: As Promised
Message-ID: <000001bdb7d1$d7094a00$64f14dc3ATnospamjb>
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Katharine:
> I have just recently heard of aura-photos. Where would a person go to get
> this done and is it really all that reliable? I am going through a
> spiritual transformation at the moment. I have no idea where it
> is leading
> me though! Thank you for the info.

Jennifer:
> Hi, how do you go about getting auric photos? I've heard of it, but does
> one have to have special equipment?

Jan:
A few years ago, an aura-photographer visited the island where I am living.
I was just curious if the fact that K. has her abode in sahasrara for some
28 years would be visible in the aura. The camera was a modified Polaroid.
It was geared up to make electrical fields visible. The equipment is rather
expensive. My photo was taken and the photographer, seeing the aura, got
rather excited and showed it to everyone except me... The reason was that
the aura only showed white, changing into deep blue at its outer limit.
There still was a small spot of light-green. Anyway, both the photo and the
explanation were bulls-eye. Every tool has its limits, so there are things
like tolerance (deviation from nominal value) and electrical fields are
influenced by moisture. Because no one could have anything 'against'
aura-photography, no doubt several 'prominents' will have cooperated by
allowing their aura-photo's to be used as reference material, so it could be
rather reliable. The search-engines (Yahoo etc.) will give info on where to
have the photo made.

Jan
Date: 25 Jul 98 15:14:07 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: First meditation
Message-Id: <35B9F61E.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>

Hiya.

I don't think I've ever received so many beautiful messages of support
than I have been receiving today. Thankyou all.

Last night I was forced to meditate for the first time. I have sat
down before but I had no idea what I was doing and didn't get
anywhere. Or rather, I did, and that's why it didn't work.

The phrase "I can do nothing" came to me. I played with the words a
bit, you know, like getting different angles on it, like "I CAN do
nothing" or "I can do NOTHING". It started to come to me.

You crash up against some rocks only to find you've finally found some
land. Spent so much time drifting at sea that the rocks became an
enemy. Then suddenly you're ashore - actually sure.

Another thing came to me, that everything that is in any way painful
is an attempt by God/Godess to get me closer to the point where I
surrender.

So I sat saying to myself many times in different ways that there was
nothing I could do. There was no hope. There was no help and no need
for it. It seems that things get direly hopeless and then without
moving anywhere at all you've arrived.

Other things started to come to me too in little flashes. I heard
creaks and cracks in the room, like stuff cooling down after a hot
day, and I found myself saying "there is a sound near the desk" or
"Louise is downstairs". It seemed to end it and any fear I had about
it.

I suddenly found myself taking sides with the things that were
bothering me. I thought I'd test to see how well they knew their game
and they didn't expect that. Felt odd not to be at war with those
things and to be encouraging them to do it better. Sort of "no no,
you're beating him up all wrong, you want to do it more gently and
elegantly".

It occured to me that something a wise geezer said "there is no hope
for mankind" had been taken the wrong way, and that hope was not a
reality, and that in fact he was speaking from nothingness and it was
most promising and loving.

I kept with the nothingness theme as much as I could. "There is
nothing I can do". "I can do nothing". "Absolutely anything could
happen". "There is no hope". "I have nothing to give". "I can't do
anything". It dawned on me at some point what somebody had meant by
saying that when we talk we are doing an unnecessary thing compared
with the stillness of doing nothing. It was like my mental voice
switched off.

I realised I had spent much of life trying to do something about
stuff, trying to change it, solve it, mend it, influence it. Very
willfull you see. And that doing that was not the right way to go
about things. I saw that I had a hero complex, trying to heroically
leap in and save the day all the time. How pretty it was to bring hope
to people but even so it was a deception.

I didn't really know what to do when I sat down on my pillow. I
suppose it started with the message "don't do anything". It's actually
quite hard, doing nothing, but not unfairly so. Something that could
probably be done more completely if the honesty was there.

All this nothingness has given me a bit of an appetite. There's
something there, like a meaning that arises in everything being
pointless. I think I might do it again tonight.

--
Paul.

IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 15:21:59 +0100
From: "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: prayer?
Message-ID: <000101bdb7d7$95caf600$64f14dc3ATnospamjb>
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Little prayer:

>From darkness, lead me to the light
>From ignorance, lead me to truth
>From death, lead me to immortality
>From finite life, lead me to eternity

The desire for one's real nature isn't a desire in the proper sense. This
prayer works like a mantra. It will sink deeply into the consciousness and
do its work. I don't know where I got it from - maybe the Upanishads.

Jan
Date: 25 Jul 98 15:28:30 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: God=Nothing?
Message-Id: <35B9F99E.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>

Hi.

I was just wondering, and maybe this is too much to be wondering in
one day, but I just noticed a strange different in my view of a few
words: nothing, fear, and God.

The phrase "I am afraid of nothing" sais to me `confidence'.

The phrase "I am afraid of god" sais to me `lack of confidence'.

So I guess I don't associate God with nothingness yet, and I was
wondering how other people view this thing?

Being afraid of God is nothing like fear as we know it?

--
Paul.

IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:06:33 -0700
From: Wonderer <Mrtn74AATnospamprodigy.com>
To: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: First meditation
Message-ID: <35BA1099.2B7BATnospamprodigy.com>

Deepak Chopra says that the path to enlightenment eventually leads to
"doing nothing and accomplishing everything". I understand that, and get
better all the time at it, although I still find myself making some
effort!

Meditation is passive, doing nothing. Very good Paul! Glad you're
feeling better.

Cathy

PS: Prayer is the transmission part to God, the active part. Meditation
is receiving.

Some other ways to view this Nothing concept:
Think: Less is more
 Always Keep Them Wanting More
 Good Things Come in Small Packages
 Play Hard to Get (a variation on less is more)
 All creation sprang forth from one tiny .
 Planting a seed

Paul West wrote:
>
> Hiya.
>
> I don't think I've ever received so many beautiful messages of support
> than I have been receiving today. Thankyou all.
>
> Last night I was forced to meditate for the first time. (snip)
> I didn't really know what to do when I sat down on my pillow. I
> suppose it started with the message "don't do anything". It's actually
> quite hard, doing nothing, but not unfairly so. Something that could
> probably be done more completely if the honesty was there.
>
> All this nothingness has given me a bit of an appetite. There's
> something there, like a meaning that arises in everything being
> pointless. I think I might do it again tonight.
>
> --
> Paul.
>
> IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
> WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
> E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:18:36 -0500
From: Jody Randolph <randolphATnospammail.usmo.com>
To: "Nancy J. Young" <youngATnospamnuc003.psc.sc.edu>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: love for all that is
Message-ID: <35B9F74C.17D0ATnospammail.usmo.com>

Dear Josie,

Wow! Im also 28 years old (which means saturn return all year!) I would
love to talk more with you! I feel like I could have been reading
something of my own life story in reading your brief intro to the list.

How did you find the list?

What kind of healing work are you drawn to?

Are you interested in doing distant healing??

I am a Reiki Master, owning my power and plunging forth into the depth
of life and healing!

Love!

Jody
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 11:32:27 EDT
From: AfperryATnospamaol.com
To: janbarenATnospaminfase.es
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: prayer?
Message-ID: <7cd4814.35b9fa8cATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 25/7/98 3:22:33 pm, you wrote:

>From darkness, lead me to the light
>From ignorance, lead me to truth
>From death, lead me to immortality
>From finite life, lead me to eternity
>I don't know where I got it from - maybe the Upanishads.

Dear Jan,
The original is Upanishadic, I think from the Isa, and it is one of the most
famous and beautiful prayers in Hinduism. But you have somehow duplicated
translation of the third line!

Asato Maa Sat Gamaya,
Tamaso Maa Jyotir Gamaya
Mrithyor Maa Amritham Gamaya
(Om Shanti etc.)

God bless,
Alan
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 13:33:58 -0300
From: "Larry Schmitz" <taniaATnospamcentroin.com.br>
To: <brookelynATnospammail.usinternet.com>, "Edward Gurd" <trexisATnospamjuno.com>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>,
 <principiisATnospamaol.com>
Subject: Re: prayer?
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Dear All,

original message:
-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Gurd <trexisATnospamjuno.com>
Date: Saturday, July 25, 1998 12:50 AM
Subject: prayer?

>
>I believe thru concentrated meditation and prayer, my kundaline has
>risen. Firey back, followed by back pain and headaches. I am receiving
>voices which are giving me information and "views", microphone feedback,
>etc
>Don't be concerned. Be happy.
>#1 "God" loves you.
>#2 everything isi FINE
>
>What else is there you really need to know?
>
>Edward
>
>Brooke,
>What is prayer? I don't mean to be silly. As my father was a baptist
>minister I virtually grew up in church and have seen and shared and gone
>through the motions of prayer
>so much that it feels silly and meaningless to me. I'd think that "god"
>is hearing all that you think anyway, right?

Here, I feel a lot of syncronicity lately. I, too, went thru a lot of
structured prayer as a child & young man...i.e., rosary every night,
novenas, etc. Lately, I have been doing
a lot of thinking about the divine, God, Trinity, life & afterlife, in
general. It suudenly occurred to me that, hey, this is praying....& much
more fulfilling than any syructured praying that I had ever done.

Anyway, my point of view on subject.

Larry
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:41:06 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>
Cc: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: As Promised
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  Look up "Kirlian photography."
 BB. A.

At 02:40 PM 25/07/98 +0100, jb wrote:
The search-engines (Yahoo etc.) will give info on where to
>have the photo made.
>
>Jan
>
>
>
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:28:07 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: God=Nothing?
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  Sure, God is terrifying till ya get to know Her. Angels say "fear not",
and Moses trembles. God is so scary most folks prefer to go thru channels
instead of direct. BB, M.

At 03:28 PM 25/07/98 +0000, Paul West wrote:
>Hi.
>The phrase "I am afraid of god" sais to me `lack of confidence'.
<...>>Being afraid of God is nothing like fear as we know it?

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